Spoiler post-game questions to DLC

[Xmenekai]

So I've just completed this and have a few things to clearify

1. What happened with signal blocker? Here we can see that the Prisoner didnt destryed it, but just turned off and also blocker was turned on after this.

2. I saw some spoiler mentions that owl much older than everybody else in the game. How can we know this?

[Bobywan]

The signal blocker is till active during your playthrough, that's why it's so hard to find the eye.
The Nomai heard an echoe of the eye while the signal was briefly turned on by the prisoner.
You can actually see the blocker when you are at the eye (there are videos of it on youtube).
We know the owls are older because you see the chronological order vision at the end of the dlc with first the owls, then the nomais, then the heartians.

[Xmenekai]

Originally posted by Bobywan:

The signal blocker is till active during your playthrough, that's why it's so hard to find the eye.
The Nomai heard an echoe of the eye while the signal was briefly turned on by the prisoner.
You can actually see the blocker when you are at the eye (there are videos of it on youtube).
We know the owls are older because you see the chronological order vision at the end of the dlc with first the owls, then the nomais, then the heartians.

But if it's still active, shouldn't it save universe from dissapearing? If it's purpose was just hide Eye than story with prisoning makes less sense

[Sagi]

The owls where probably long digitalized by the time the interloper brought ghost matter in the system. That's why as far as i can remember there are no owl skeletons near the ghost matter in the stranger. The owl's bodies where already long dead.

[Tato]

Originally posted by Xmenekai:

Originally posted by Bobywan:

The signal blocker is till active during your playthrough, that's why it's so hard to find the eye.
The Nomai heard an echoe of the eye while the signal was briefly turned on by the prisoner.
You can actually see the blocker when you are at the eye (there are videos of it on youtube).
We know the owls are older because you see the chronological order vision at the end of the dlc with first the owls, then the nomais, then the heartians.

But if it's still active, shouldn't it save universe from dissapearing? If it's purpose was just hide Eye than story with prisoning makes less sense

The universe is still dying - that's the entire problem. If you look around the universe during a loop, you'll see stars exploding left and right. You're literally playing during the last moments of the universe, only kept there by the loop.
The signal blocker made it so that it took much, much longer for someone to find the eye. The Owlelks hid it because they thought the Eye is what ends the universe, when in reality, the Eye perpetuates it. The time the prisoner deactivated the blocker is the time that the nomai actually detected the Eye's signal, warpjumped into the hearthian system and got stranded in Dark Bramble.

[Xmenekai]

Okay, so Eye blocker's only purpose was just to block signal even if it's didn't save Universe. When why it was so important. I just don't get it

Also I have another question. For the true ending we didn't have to save Prisoner but he appears in the end. How, if in finaly loop we didn't free him

[Rehv]

The Owlelks were scared that the eye would be the cause of the end of the universe so they built the blocker to block the signal of the eye. Eventually one woke up and turned it off because they weren't afraid of the end of the universe and S/he could see that it was spawn a new one. The Nomai picked up the signal and warped to our galaxy.

In the ending with the prisoner, s/he's there because everything you see in the eye is from your memory. None of the people/things you see there are real. I believe even Gabbro or Chert tell you something like that.

[ReverendTed]

You can also tell that the Owlks were there first because in some of the reels you can see that the planet that became Dark Bramble hasn't yet been "brambled", and we know that when the Nomai entered the system, they were caught in the Bramble.

The signal blocker's primary significance is that the Owlks had seen in their vision that interacting with the Eye would result in the end of the universe as they knew it. Even though their vision clearly indicated new life would spring forth after them, they knew it would mean their own demise, and feared it. They rebelled against it and tried to block its signal so that no one else could find it either.
If not for the Prisoner's actions, it's possible no one else would have found the Eye before there was no one left to seek it. The universe was coming to an end on its own. Fortunately, the Nomai heard the signal thanks to the brief interval in which it was set free. While they were unsuccessful in finding the eye, they ultimately produced a system which coincidentally would be triggered by the sun going supernova at the end of its life, providing an opportunity for a Hearthian to finish the search that the Nomai never got to complete.

[scflead970]

Originally posted by Xmenekai:

Okay, so Eye blocker's only purpose was just to block signal even if it's didn't save Universe. When why it was so important. I just don't get it

Also I have another question. For the true ending we didn't have to save Prisoner but he appears in the end. How, if in finaly loop we didn't free him

I'm pretty late to this, but the purpose of this signal blocker was to stop others from finding the eye, since that could prompt the end of the universe.

And for the true ending, nobody aside from the player is "real" there. As long as you previously saved the prisoner in a past loop, he will appear similar to how solanum appears if you found her previously.

[Xmenekai]

Originally posted by scflead970:

Originally posted by Xmenekai:

Okay, so Eye blocker's only purpose was just to block signal even if it's didn't save Universe. When why it was so important. I just don't get it

Also I have another question. For the true ending we didn't have to save Prisoner but he appears in the end. How, if in finaly loop we didn't free him

I'm pretty late to this, but the purpose of this signal blocker was to stop others from finding the eye, since that could prompt the end of the universe.

And for the true ending, nobody aside from the player is "real" there. As long as you previously saved the prisoner in a past loop, he will appear similar to how solanum appears if you found her previously.

I've already forgot all details, but as far as I remember what blocker do is exactly blocks Eye effect and that's why Prisoner destroyed it - to let things go their own way, and that's why he was Prisoned. General idea was that Prisoner was wiser then other. Otherwise it doesn't make sense.

[KitZune]

No, the eye signal blocker just stops the eye from sending out it's signal.

The eye sends out a signal at the end of the universe (Natural end, the eye does not cause the death of the universe at all.) The eye then must have a conscious observer arrive to activate it. That observer uses their memories to form a new universe.

The inhabitants of the stranger Once heard the eye, and went to seek it out. But they destroyed their home planet making the stranger. When they reached the eye they thought they had figured out the eye destroys the universe, and so they did everything they could to stop an observer from entering: They blocked the signal.

The prisoner realized that the eye wasn't just ending the universe, it was allowing for a chance of new life to flourish. (you can see evidence of this in the prisoner's house in the dream-world reality. The prisoner has a painting of life after the death of the universe.) So they tried to turn off the signal blocker, but they were imprisoned for it. In the brief moment that the signal blocker was off the Nomai heard it.

WIthout the Nomai, you would never have had the technology to reach the eye. It's almost as if the eye WANTS to be found.

So, to answer your question, no the eye signal blocker does not save the universe. The universe is dying anyway. The Inhabitants just refused to accept that reality. They were content to just live in their virtual reality.