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digidomo 2021 年 10 月 2 日 下午 10:16
[major spoilers] Thoughts about timeline
So the prisoners actions are what brought the Nomai to the galaxy. My thought is with all the knowledge of the Nomai and Strangers, how did they never meet in our galaxy? The stranger has small spacecraft in the hangars for exploration. It's not like they were stuck on board.

Wouldn't they have contacted each other at one point to work together? Or did the Strangers arrive so long before the Nomai that they were all dead by the time the Nomai arrived? Even still you think the Nomai would have run in to the stranger at some point, since they had their amazing technologies and searched everywhere in the galaxy.
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Cryten 2021 年 10 月 2 日 下午 10:26 
I suspect the second option. The signal takes time to reach other solar systems / galaxies. The clearly had no contact the the Nomai. What was most interesting to me with the depiction of the interloper wiping out the Nomai instantly. Which seems to confirm that the explosion somehow wiped out all sentient life with ghost matter phasing through all matter while at the same time leaving then life that would become our main characters species untouched.

The recordings show that dead people remain in the dream land simulation which explains the creatures and prisoner.
最后由 Cryten 编辑于; 2021 年 10 月 2 日 下午 10:27
digidomo 2021 年 10 月 2 日 下午 10:37 
I wonder if they've retconned in some mentions of the stranger in Nomai diaries throughout the game. Even if the Strangers were already dead it seems pretty unlikely the Nomai wouldn't run in to the ship itself.
digidomo 2021 年 10 月 2 日 下午 10:39 
Heck, or even commandeer the Stranger and use it to escape the galaxy after being stranded.
LupisLight 2021 年 10 月 2 日 下午 10:46 
引用自 Cryten
Which seems to confirm that the explosion somehow wiped out all sentient life with ghost matter phasing through all matter while at the same time leaving then life that would become our main characters species untouched.

There's a simple explanation for how the Hearthians survived the ghost matter; Water is ghost matter's weakness - notice that you'll never find ghost matter underwater, even in areas where it is otherwise everywhere. For instance there's a little workshop in the Stranger's wetlands near the beginning where you can find a lantern artifact. It is surrounded by ghost matter, but there is none in the stream that runs underneath it.

Now at the time the interloper exploded and scattered the ghost matter killing everything, where were the Hearthians? According to the Nomai, they were aquatic at that point in their evolution! Hence why the ghost matter didn't touch them at all!
Cryten 2021 年 10 月 2 日 下午 10:52 
Nice Observation! It only leaves the question why ghost matter isnt everywhere, allowing tree life and nature to return.
LupisLight 2021 年 10 月 2 日 下午 11:44 
引用自 Cryten
Nice Observation! It only leaves the question why ghost matter isnt everywhere, allowing tree life and nature to return.

Ghost matter decays over time. Heck, they tell you that back in the village at Timber Hearth at the ghost matter patch there, that it used to be bigger. It has been a long long time since the Interloper exploded, so most of the ghost matter is gone by now.
Vintorez 2021 年 10 月 3 日 上午 4:06 
After the Strangers found out what the Eye would do if 'activated', they blocked its signal and returned to our solar system. They recreated their home world in a simulation since they couldn't return to it physically, cloaked their ship, and entered the simulation to live in there indefinitely.

They never met the Nomai because they never wanted to find or be found by anyone, they just wanted to return to their home moon in the only way they could. At most they had one of their lifespan's left before they couldn't leave the simulation due to their physical bodies dying. We also don't know how long it took for the Prisoner's leaked signal to reach the Nomai, the Strangers' bodies may have all already been dead by the time the Nomai warped in to Dark Bramble.
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[BoC] Oshroth 2021 年 10 月 3 日 上午 6:17 
The ghost matter is basically some kind of short distance high energy radiation emitting material (and we know that water is a very effective blocker for radiation). By the way, If you visit the workshop after the dam breaks, then none of the ghost matter can hurt you anymore as it's radiation is all blocked by the water.
digidomo 2021 年 10 月 3 日 上午 9:14 
引用自 BoC Oshroth
If you visit the workshop after the dam breaks, then none of the ghost matter can hurt you anymore as it's radiation is all blocked by the water.
This is really cool, never thought to check it.
choongmyoung 2021 年 10 月 3 日 上午 9:35 
引用自 BoC Oshroth
The ghost matter is basically some kind of short distance high energy radiation emitting material (and we know that water is a very effective blocker for radiation). By the way, If you visit the workshop after the dam breaks, then none of the ghost matter can hurt you anymore as it's radiation is all blocked by the water.
You can actually see this in the base game. Go to the Giant's Deep and sit next to any ghost matter area. When the island hover up via the storm and sinks down, you can freely go across the area while underwater, though the temporal window isn't so long.
Shiztastic 2021 年 10 月 3 日 上午 9:39 
The Strangers were long dead before the Nomai arrived in our system. To give an idea of the timeframe, in each slide/vision showing the Eye signal in our system, Dark Bramble as we know it is not present. The Ice planet was still whole and intact.

As for water nullifying the effects of Ghost Matter, this was true in the base game as well. On Giant’s Deep there is a small tunnel near Gabbro with a small amount of Ghost Matter. When his island lands in the water after being tossed, the water will briefly fill the tunnel and you can walk through quickly without being harmed.
Quillithe 2021 年 10 月 3 日 上午 9:57 
It's also a nice touch in that it explains the lack of animal life - presumably there were some sort of animals at least on timber hollow, but now all that's left is aquatic life - barring one unusually located exception (including the fish that go with marshmallows to be the Hearthian diet)
Ferret 2021 年 10 月 4 日 下午 1:22 
By the way, how did the anglerfish survive the ghost matter from the interloper?
TripodRanger 2021 年 10 月 4 日 下午 8:41 
引用自 Ferret
By the way, how did the anglerfish survive the ghost matter from the interloper?
Dark Bramble is a labyrinth that breaks known spacial laws. The ghost matter probably couldn't penetrate very deep into it.
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