Giga to small... AGAIN!

[-=EDF=- Kouta Seto]

Hello dev's and others. We are here again, and i seem to be the ONLY ONE who cares at this point so.. here we are:

The giga IS bigger than the Rex, even JW:E admited that mistake done and patched it out. Yet i didnt see any patchnote from you admiting and changing that. In their second game they didnt make that mistake and with movie 3 we even get to see a proper one on screen finaly, utterly wiping out Rexie in the past and heavily crippling her in the present. Especiel the intro battle IS accurate as far as people and science are concerned. A giga being bigger = stronger than the rex. Normaly they wouldnt come across so thats the only "what if" part of it all.

So i would BEG for you to make it right. The Giga still remains the biggest carnivore ever and should be respected as such.

[Drakeema]

Oh, you don't think a Brachio would eat some beef jerky..? I beg to differ!!

[ScrubbinBubbles]

Current research and scientific sources will only go so far as to say the Giga was a little longer, Sue was our biggest T rex and was slightly smaller than the baseline Giga estimates but since then we found another skeleton of Trex named Scotty, and it proves that Rex got even bigger than Sue and puts Trex growth estimates on the same size than Giga. Also skull structure tells us the Rex would easily break a Giga with it's bite power, as the Giga is far less evolved for brain size and bite power. There's a lotta million years of evolution between them afterall.
While Giga was potentially faster, there's no doubt it's lighter bone structure would be pulversized by a bite from trex. If rex got a hold of a Giga its over.

[L]

Escrito originalmente por -=EDF=- Kouta Seto:

Hello dev's and others. We are here again, and i seem to be the ONLY ONE who cares at this point so.. here we are:

The giga IS bigger than the Rex, even JW:E admited that mistake done and patched it out. Yet i didnt see any patchnote from you admiting and changing that. In their second game they didnt make that mistake and with movie 3 we even get to see a proper one on screen finaly, utterly wiping out Rexie in the past and heavily crippling her in the present. Especiel the intro battle IS accurate as far as people and science are concerned. A giga being bigger = stronger than the rex. Normaly they wouldnt come across so thats the only "what if" part of it all.

So i would BEG for you to make it right. The Giga still remains the biggest carnivore ever and should be respected as such.

Modern scientific studies prove otherwise.

First off, the most current weight estimates put T.Rex above Giganotosaurus and Spinosaurus.

Here is a direct quote from Franoys who is a paleontologist and also an artist "Tyrannosaurus rex has the most robust hind limbs of any member of the theropoda"

The statement goes on, and on.

The Giganotosaurus Holotype which btw, is the only accurate Giga specimen we have and it's only at around 6,700kg, which is enormous however the Tyrannosaurus Rex Sue specimen is over 9100kg!

This makes Tyrannosaurus Rex just absolutely enormous by contrast.

However, even if we were to use the much smaller T.Rex specimen in Stan, he's still 7,700kg, making him even Bigger than the Giganotosaurus Holotype.

Even when compared to the "largest" estimated Spinosaurus specimen (based solely off the upper jaw bone which will more than likely make it highly, Highly inaccurate) goes at around 7,600 or 7,900 kg which is only the size of the smaller Rex specimen while not being anywhere within the ranges of the highest Rex specimens.

Remember that the Rex specimen known as Scotty is larger than Sue, while we have other Rex specimens that would be near or could rival Sue in weight like Trix for example.

So therefore anyone still claiming that Giga is bigger than T.Rex at least at this point in time needs to update themselves on the newest size estimates of these giant theropods.

Tyrannosaurus Rex currently, is the largest theropod, while the next big one would be either Spinosaurus or Giganotosaurus depending upon which dubious "fragmentary" specimen you choose for them.

This "game" if it wanted to portray these dinosaurs more accurately, Tyrannosaurus Rex would not only be the largest of the three, but it should also be the most Powerful of the three as well.

Of course, as with this game, and so many other dinosaur games, they are "still" running with the old and outdated mid-2000s or early 2010s views of these giant theropods.

[Drakeema]

And yet, in the game, Giga is a common predator to the T-Rex. It's all fuct

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Escrito originalmente por Drakeema:

And yet, in the game, Giga is a common predator to the T-Rex. It's all fuct

Hence why most dinosaur games I can't take seriously. These dev makers take no time to actually look at any of the current weight estimates for these giant theropods, considering the game came out with "early access" in 2020, and by then we had all of the new weight estimates already.

Moreover if they actually looked at the skeletal frames of these animals, Tyrannosaurus Rex is just built like an absolute tank compared to any of them, seeing them from the sides like most art depictions does not do justice just how massive Rex is compared to the rest.

This skeletal 3-D renedtion from the front shows just how massive Tryannosaurus Rex is when compared to Giganotosaurus, and by the way, the skeletal frame of Giganotosaurus here is "based" solely off the minimal fragments specimen called "Mucpv-95" which can make it highly iaccurate, however this is the "largest" proposed specimen for Giga.
https://cdnb.artstation.com/p/assets/images/images/006/943/999/large/vitamin-imagination-1.jpg?1502444988

When you see them up in the front, it showcases just how freakishly built Tyrannosaurus Rex is when compared to Giganotosaurus which also correlates to what Franoys stated when he said that Tyrannosaurus Rex is the most robust (heavily built) out of the giant theropods.

Here is the Rex skeleton next to also the "largest" proposed Spinosaurus (slightly outdated due to discovery of the accurate tail where this one was made before the tail discovery) specimen which again can be highly inaccurate due to the fragments and not having more of the specimen.
https://cdna.artstation.com/p/assets/images/images/009/731/722/large/vitamin-imagination-28617019-1860053530731894-6685992914888647675-o.jpg?1520572650

Yet again, when we see these animals not from the sides, but actually from the front, you see just how massive Tyrannosaurus Rex is once again in contrast to Spinosaurus.

"If" the game were to truly make this correct, than Tyrannosaurus Rex would be the most imposing predator in this game, not the other way around...however again, these games are still running with old outdated info, which unfortunately also gives inaccurate info to the general public.

I mean...we still have people today who "think" Spinosaurus could reach 20 tons...(-_-)

[Splina]

what is so hard to understand in all these comparisons...?
and ofc, what is so hard to implement in game after that?

it's quite simple after you do a bit of research...don't need to be an expert, just curious enough to study first

so the rex is the heaviest, spino longest, giga tallest (if we don't consider spino's crest) and there are another 2 very simmilar and close in sizes...
Mapusaurus and Charcharodontosaurus

in any case, by no means any of them would be imune to large caliber shots to vital organs...

what can be an easy fix?
well..first obviously, research...
then simply add more stats...length, height, even skull length / weight....so all of them can shine at their best features

[Drakeema]

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in any case, by no means any of them would be imune to large caliber shots to vital organs

Except when the TRex runs at you with a big you-name-it in its mouth, blocking all the bulits

[X-Allosaurus]

I really hope you are trolling, Tyrannosaurus is the biggest carnivorous dinosaur, Giganotosaurus is the second biggest, sure Giganotosaurus may be slightly longer than T.rex, but T.rex is heavier, at 9 all the way to 10 tons, Giganotosaurus is 8.5 to 9 tons, also this game's dinosaur weight is not accurate at all, like Spinosaurus in this game can easily weigh over 15 tons, while in real life is no more than 7 tons.

[SILENCER 7]

Pretty sure more recent scientific discoveries have taken us full circle back to T-Rex being the biggest and baddest again. Wasn't there recent research done that concluded T-Rex could've gotten to 60 feet in length and more than 20 feet in height?

[God Eater]

With current estimates both are highly comparable in size Giganotsaurus is not actually confirmed to be larger. The most complete specimen is longer than a fair few adult rexes but its not as robust while Tyrannosaurus is the wider more robust animal so its heavier overall. The largest Giga estimates come from fragmentary remains an isolated jaw bone.

The jaw bones for theropods are highly variable so any size estimate coming from one single jaw bone is not the most reliable estimate in the first place. While the best preserved Tyrannosaurus is estimated to be in the 9 to 10 ton range and then there's the specimen Scotty which has been estimated to be slightly heavier and these are actually well preserved animals that have far more to them then just a single bone.

So maybe stop crying about he sizes featured in the game. The giga should be a little longer while the rex should be a little heavier. Its fine.

[Luli]

If I can share my opinion, I think that before thinking about details like these there are way more important issues to solve. For example, everyone worries a lot about Giga's size, but no one, I repeat, NO ONE, ever mentions that dinos are so unnaturally fast that they literally slide on the ground as they were on ice. Personally, I think that skating dinos take away the player's immersion far more than slight size differences.

[Drakeema]

Imagine if a whale and a giraffe had a baby

[Luli]

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Imagine if a whale and a giraffe had a baby

A brachiosaurus?