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EnderSword Jan 22, 2020 @ 9:39am
Is production meant to be this much slower?
I'm kind of end-game and making a lot of nuclear stuff in nuclear building etc...
But after this last update, it feels like build times are literally 10 to 20x longer
Like a single nuclear fuel in a nuclear factory powered by nuclear power plant is taking over 1 minute each.

It feels like the depletion of the fuel in the building making it is faster than the speed it makes them.
Is this the intention, this seems like its excessively longer.
Originally posted by Spoon:
Hey, this actually is the intention. On release on 4.0.0, we had an issue with crafting being way too fast and it was set back to how it was at 3.0.0, people either don't like it or don't remember it!

There's always ways to speed up the crafting though, power plants, building scroll, shrine buff, lightning rod! Also nuclear structures give x2 output on crafting too!

We are going to monitor this though and consider lowering the length of crafting.
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Spoon Jan 22, 2020 @ 9:55am 
Hey, this actually is the intention. On release on 4.0.0, we had an issue with crafting being way too fast and it was set back to how it was at 3.0.0, people either don't like it or don't remember it!

There's always ways to speed up the crafting though, power plants, building scroll, shrine buff, lightning rod! Also nuclear structures give x2 output on crafting too!

We are going to monitor this though and consider lowering the length of crafting.
EnderSword Jan 22, 2020 @ 10:27am 
Originally posted by RyrnBru:
Hey, this actually is the intention. On release on 4.0.0, we had an issue with crafting being way too fast and it was set back to how it was at 3.0.0, people either don't like it or don't remember it!

There's always ways to speed up the crafting though, power plants, building scroll, shrine buff, lightning rod! Also nuclear structures give x2 output on crafting too!

We are going to monitor this though and consider lowering the length of crafting.

Yeah, I guess I only got the game a couple weeks ago, so I probably only experienced the fast build rates.

So it definitely feels really weird that the main function of this update was to include specific mechanics to make things faster, but even after implementing the 'speed up' mechanics, it's slower than it was before the update...

Just kind of reverses a feeling of progress you had as a player. I can collect resources hundreds of times faster than i could possibly consume them.

EDIT: Another point too btw is the spirit orbs, I'm not sure if Im missing how, but I wish there was a way to use like all spirit orbs without clicking 1000+ times because you get a lot of them by the end and just have to click the sword each time.
Last edited by EnderSword; Jan 22, 2020 @ 10:30am
Spoon Jan 22, 2020 @ 11:05am 
Originally posted by EnderSword:
Yeah, I guess I only got the game a couple weeks ago, so I probably only experienced the fast build rates.

So it definitely feels really weird that the main function of this update was to include specific mechanics to make things faster, but even after implementing the 'speed up' mechanics, it's slower than it was before the update...

Just kind of reverses a feeling of progress you had as a player. I can collect resources hundreds of times faster than i could possibly consume them.

EDIT: Another point too btw is the spirit orbs, I'm not sure if Im missing how, but I wish there was a way to use like all spirit orbs without clicking 1000+ times because you get a lot of them by the end and just have to click the sword each time.

A lot of people tend to have in the Millions to trillions of resources, myself included. It's primarily more about what you can do to use as much resources as you can really, I've got a pretty big set up to burn as much as I possibly can.

As for orbs, you're not missing anything I'm afraid, that's the only in-game way to handle them, people usually use auto-clickers to go through them. You can however use mods to also help, but be careful since they can stop steam achievements from being gained! If you do, I'd recommend backing up your save so you can come back to that one when move achievements are added!
If you would like to use mods, I recommend "kyos orbs" as it adds new orbs to the Spirit crystal altar that makes it a lot easier to burn through the stockpile.
DarthNemesis Jan 23, 2020 @ 9:17pm 
Originally posted by RyrnBru:
Hey, this actually is the intention. On release on 4.0.0, we had an issue with crafting being way too fast and it was set back to how it was at 3.0.0, people either don't like it or don't remember it!

There's always ways to speed up the crafting though, power plants, building scroll, shrine buff, lightning rod! Also nuclear structures give x2 output on crafting too!

We are going to monitor this though and consider lowering the length of crafting.
Nuclear power feels awful as it currently stands. The fuel consumption for a nuclear factory is so high it takes 3 fuel cells to craft a single (double?) fiberglass, and when the fuel runs out production stops entirely instead of reverting back to the base rate for a regular factory. Also the crafting progress reset back to 0 after I entered a dungeon and returned, which I hope isn't intentional.

I haven't gone that deep into the void yet (around level 16), but so far the increased crafting speed doesn't come close to justifying the amount of time that has to be spent manually farming the void for fuel mats.
Pasukaru Nov 14, 2020 @ 2:40pm 
Yes, nuclear is absolutely useless.
I just went up to floor 100, which gave me enough uranium for around 1k fuel. (2K if i produce fuel in a uranium factory).
This took around 1 hour with floors taking around 30-50 seconds. Also, it's really boring as nothing changes after around floor 35-40. Just running around while droids kill everything.

So those 2k fuel could support 20 buildings with around 100 fuel - which is not going to last that long to be honest. Also 20 buildings is nothing when you have like 50 of them. And the ones that you dont have many of (spirit forges, etc), they don't support nuclear!

Also note that production stops in the main world while you are in the void.
So 1 hour of nothing happened.
I would have gotten more resources by just letting the game run afk for 1h.
Last edited by Pasukaru; Nov 14, 2020 @ 2:42pm
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