Illusion's Koikatu just got banned from Steam

[crusnik]

Source: https://www.oneangrygamer.net/2019/04/illusions-koikatu-3d-customizable-romance-simulator-banned-from-steam/82410/

I'm REALLY mad at Steam.
They are only allowing trashy puzzle games with stolen artwork but ban all the good adult games.
This storefront is getting very worthless to me.
I hope Illusion releases the game on Fakku, JastUSA or Mangagamer.

[Cyberbeing]

I don't get it though, why the hostility against school settings. Do they think that only children go to school or what ?

[Araragi Koyomi]

Agreed, Also upset by this.

[Araragi Koyomi]

Originally posted by Cyberbeing:

I don't get it though, why the hostility against school settings. Do they think that only children go to school or what ?

+1

Personally, i think its a personal grudge somewhere along the lines since they are failing to explain why this setting in particular is so "offensive" which is honestly petty as hell.

[Fomin]

Some people in school are 18 and 19. If the characters are 18+ it shouldn't be banned especially since Steam sells murder simulators. On the other hand, if even fictional characters are portrayed as below 18, Steam should ban it simply to protect their users from legal liability.

Personally I don't think devs should put below 18 characters in their games. If you make the game, you decide how old the characters are. Even if you want to make a dirty fanfic about a story with below 18 characters, just set it a few years in the future so the characters in your story are all 18+. Problem solved.

[Game Cooker US Rocks VR]

The game is still on the store page for sale.

[DanComanchero]

I have a question .... in Koikatu , Can you participate in the same sort of ( patched) acrobatics as in VR Kanojo ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

[crusnik]

Originally posted by 1stGA CRct.Danny White:

I have a question .... in Koikatu , Can you participate in the same sort of ( patched) acrobatics as in VR Kanojo ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

Yeah, to my knowledge all Illusion games contain outrageous content such as handholding and advanced partnered yoga training if that's what you mean.
You can look up Koikatu on youtube or the adult equivalent.
The game graphics are anime style and it's not made for VR, but there is a VR mod for it.

[Atreyis Lortani]

Originally posted by Zidane:

Some people in school are 18 and 19. If the characters are 18+ it shouldn't be banned especially since Steam sells murder simulators. On the other hand, if even fictional characters are portrayed as below 18, Steam should ban it simply to protect their users from legal liability.

Personally I don't think devs should put below 18 characters in their games. If you make the game, you decide how old the characters are. Even if you want to make a dirty fanfic about a story with below 18 characters, just set it a few years in the future so the characters in your story are all 18+. Problem solved.

The only time sexual activities with an underage person are illegal is when the activities are activities and the person is a person. That means real life. Any other medium, such as a movie, TV series, novel, short story, video game, text-based game, VR simulation, etcetera. There's a movie called Lolita, which if memory serves is actually based off a novel by the same title, and the plot is...you guessed it, a male having sex with an underage female. In reality the actress is over 18 and there's not even any nudity in the movie (from what I can remember). The movie (and novel) simply tell a story. Granted, after watching the movie I wanted to murder someone (metaphorically, 'cause legal reasons) - after all, there's a difference between looking at/watching loli hentai and ACTUALLY being a pedophile. Loli hentai (as well as the equivalent in video games) is not illegal so long as the underage character(s) involved are 100% fictional and NOT based on a real-life person.

Developers should be allowed to make whatever they want, within the constraints of the law (otherwise they'd be arrested). There's no law banning loli so long as its fictional, just as there's no law banning pornography set in a school - in fact there's a huge market for it given the fetish of schoolgirls.

Valve likes to say one thing and do another, they always have. They said ages ago they wouldn't interfere with games on Steam as long as the content wasn't illegal. They interfered anyway. They said recently they wouldn't. They're still doing it, if this post is to be believed. That's just Valve...well, some of the employees anyway. Valve has no opinion, its a corporation.

[Atreyis Lortani]

Originally posted by Zidane:

Actually I am pretty sure a man in the United States was jailed for hand drawn loli porn. Look it up.

Hard pass. If he did, then he likely based the character off a real life person - hence the arrest.

EDIT: Not looking it up because "pretty sure" and "United States man arrested for loli porn" is far too vague. Probably end up with a mix of loli hentai sites and some DMCA sites. If you find it and provide a link, I'll probably look at it so long as its from a credible source and not some no-name's blog.

[Atreyis Lortani]

Originally posted by Zidane:

If you are too lazy to do basic research (a simple google search would be adequate) before "rebutting" a fact that I pointed out, you aren't worthy of my time. A man was jailed for drawn porn NOT based on an actual person with no DMCA issues whatsoever. Anyone willing to "man jailed for loli porn" can find out that is true.

Looking at porn which explicitly depicts underage characters is not something anyone should do on purpose for legal reasons. As such, anyone who could choose any age they want for their fictional comic-game characters and CHOOSES to make them underage is an @$$#0LE for exposing their fans to legal risks for no good reason.

You call me lazy yet you're the one who failed to even provide the proof, literally makes you the lazy one. Besides, you said "pretty sure" and by definition, that means you DO NOT KNOW...yet you just now said it was a fact. Looks like you're the one who isn't worth my time. Do you have any idea how many results one would get for "man jailed for loli porn"? Of course not because you don't know how search engines work, I do.

Oh look, an unsubscribe button. Handy considering the lack of civility and intelligence I see from the only active poster. Later.

EDIT: Yeah...nice copy/paste and delete. It's called an edit button kid.

[Fomin]

Originally posted by Atreyis Lortani:

Originally posted by Zidane:

Actually I am pretty sure a man in the United States was jailed for hand drawn loli porn. Look it up.

Hard pass. If he did, then he likely based the character off a real life person - hence the arrest.

EDIT: Not looking it up because "pretty sure" and "United States man arrested for loli porn" is far too vague. Probably end up with a mix of loli hentai sites and some DMCA sites. If you find it and provide a link, I'll probably look at it so long as its from a credible source and not some no-name's blog.

If you are too lazy to do basic research (a simple google search would be adequate) before "rebutting" a fact that I pointed out, you aren't worthy of my time. A man was jailed for drawn porn NOT based on an actual person with no DMCA issues whatsoever. Anyone willing to google the topic can find out that is true.

Looking at anime porn which explicitly depicts underage characters is not something anyone should do on purpose for legal reasons as well as the obvious mental health issues (why would you train your brain to crave such a dangerous thing?) As such, anyone who could choose any age they want for their fictional comic-game characters and CHOOSES to make them underage is an an antisocial creep who in addition to their other faults, is guilty of putting their own fans in legal jeopardy.

[Fomin]

Originally posted by Atreyis Lortani:

Originally posted by Zidane:

If you are too lazy to do basic research (a simple google search would be adequate) before "rebutting" a fact that I pointed out, you aren't worthy of my time. A man was jailed for drawn porn NOT based on an actual person with no DMCA issues whatsoever. Anyone willing to look that up can find out that is true.

Looking at porn which explicitly depicts underage characters is not something anyone should do on purpose for legal reasons. As such, anyone who could choose any age they want for their fictional comic-game characters and CHOOSES to make them underage is an @$$#0LE for exposing their fans to legal risks for no good reason.

You call me lazy yet you're the one who failed to even provide the proof, literally makes you the lazy one. Besides, you said "pretty sure" and by definition, that means you DO NOT KNOW...yet you just now said it was a fact. Looks like you're the one who isn't worth my time. Do you have any idea how many results one would get for "man jailed for loli porn"? Of course not because you don't know how search engines work, I do.

Oh look, an unsubscribe button. Handy considering the lack of civility and intelligence I see from the only active poster. Later.

EDIT: Yeah...nice copy/paste and delete. It's called an edit button kid.

I think you are literally afraid that I am telling the truth. Gooogle "Christopher Handley" if you dare. Everyone else, protect yourselves and don't knowingly get on the wrong side of the PROTECT Act. If you make or consume naughty stuff, make sure that it is stated somewhere that all characters are over 18. That is the only safe option.

Best!

[crusnik]

Originally posted by Zidane:

I think you are literally afraid that I am telling the truth. Gooogle "Christopher Handley" if you dare. Everyone else, protect yourselves and don't knowingly get on the wrong side of the PROTECT Act. If you make or consume naughty stuff, make sure that it is stated somewhere that all characters are over 18. That is the only safe option.

Best!

Christopher Handley took a plea bargain.
The judge of the case ruled that two parts of the PROTECT Act criminalizing "a visual depiction of any kind, including a drawing, cartoon, sculpture, or painting" were unconstitutional.

Handley went to prison for 6 months because he didn't want to face the jury on obscenity charges.
Those obscenity charges can apply to essentially everything - by the way - not just "underage pornography".
Are you into grandma porn? Feet? Interracial? Anal? Gay? ...? Obscenity laws may apply.
Hell even for the most "normal" porn they may apply.
That's why obscenity laws are garbage and they wouldn't hold up in higher court.

[Fomin]

Originally posted by crusnik:

Originally posted by Zidane:

I think you are literally afraid that I am telling the truth. Gooogle "Christopher Handley" if you dare. Everyone else, protect yourselves and don't knowingly get on the wrong side of the PROTECT Act. If you make or consume naughty stuff, make sure that it is stated somewhere that all characters are over 18. That is the only safe option.

Best!

Christopher Handley took a plea bargain.

Do you want to be placed in a position where you have to take a plea bargain over a Steam game? If not, you should be grateful to Steam for blocking materials which portray underage animated characters in sexually explicit situations.

I'm done here. If anyone here is so twisted that they want to delude themselves into thing that very dangerous, life-ruining stuff is not dangerous, it's not my job to save them. I tried but I'm done now.

Don't spend the rest of your life on the worst list possible over a fantasy. If you make or use naughty stuff, make sure that there is a disclaimer stating that the characters are over 18.

Stay safe!

[Iam8lu3]

can still buy a steam key or the non steam ver from illusionvr.jp