Why doesn't Laura speak Spanish?

[Just another Ian]

It is really strange and off putting Laura speaks English when asking people who speak only Spanish and maybe their local language questions. It comes across as her being arrogant. I get that they probably only hired an English speaking voice actor only to save on the budget.

[fuyres]

Laura????

[Holografix]

Originally posted by forgot my name:

@Holografix: Do you really think it will be another language pack added to this game to match your request?
And just to be clear and maybe, maybe you see how stupid it sounds: A British native woman at her early 20 who talks Spanish with British accent. That is Lara Croft as character or at least this is how you thing she should be.

i dont think the devs are likely to add a lanugage pack to this game, but hopefully in the future they will include all these things in their games. To improve realism.

[ayrtep]

Lara is English. English speakers never bother speaking other langues as everyone speaks English.

[ChickenBalls]

Why don't the Borderlands characters speak Pandoran?
Why doesn't Darth Vader speak whatever language they speak in his universe?

Originally posted by Polyhedrion:

It is really strange and off putting Laura speaks English when asking people who speak only Spanish and maybe their local language questions. It comes across as her being arrogant. I get that they probably only hired an English speaking voice actor only to save on the budget.

maybe you should ask members of the US Congress why they don't allow refugees from South America enter your country

[Holografix]

Originally posted by ChickenBalls:

Why don't the Borderlands characters speak Pandoran?

they do. the bandits speak pandoran. everyone else is from a different planet.

Originally posted by ChickenBalls:

Why doesn't Darth Vader speak whatever language they speak in his universe?

Vader speaks Galatic Basic which is basically english.
"Lucas intended to balance American accents and British accents between the heroes and villains of the original film. He also strove to keep accents "very neutral", noting Alec Guinness's and Peter Cushing's mid-Atlantic accents.[8] In critical commentary on Episode I – The Phantom Menace, Patricia Williams of The Nation felt there was a correlation between accent and social class, noting that Jedi speak with "crisp British accents" while the "graceful conquered women of the Naboo" and "white slaves" such as Anakin and Shmi Skywalker "speak with the brusque, determined innocence of middle-class Americans"
-- from the wiki
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Languages_in_Star_Wars#Galactic_Basic

Originally posted by ChickenBalls:

Originally posted by Polyhedrion:

It is really strange and off putting Laura speaks English when asking people who speak only Spanish and maybe their local language questions. It comes across as her being arrogant. I get that they probably only hired an English speaking voice actor only to save on the budget.

maybe you should ask members of the US Congress why they don't allow refugees from South America enter your country

why ask the US congress? Lara is british.

[ChickenBalls]

Originally posted by Holografix:

Originally posted by ChickenBalls:

maybe you should ask members of the US Congress why they don't allow refugees from South America enter your country

why ask the US congress? Lara is British.

exactly

the op is from the US of A according to his profile
which begs to wonder where were those sjws when the fat guy with orange hair was putting up that wall

Originally posted by Holografix:

Originally posted by ChickenBalls:

Why don't the Borderlands characters speak Pandoran?

they do. the bandits speak pandoran. everyone else is from a different planet.

Originally posted by ChickenBalls:

Why doesn't Darth Vader speak whatever language they speak in his universe?

Vader speaks Galatic Basic which is basically english.
"Lucas intended to balance American accents and British accents between the heroes and villains of the original film. He also strove to keep accents "very neutral", noting Alec Guinness's and Peter Cushing's mid-Atlantic accents.[8] In critical commentary on Episode I – The Phantom Menace, Patricia Williams of The Nation felt there was a correlation between accent and social class, noting that Jedi speak with "crisp British accents" while the "graceful conquered women of the Naboo" and "white slaves" such as Anakin and Shmi Skywalker "speak with the brusque, determined innocence of middle-class Americans"
-- from the wiki
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Languages_in_Star_Wars#Galactic_Basic

which should upset people like the op way more than Lara not speaking Spanish, right?
I mean an entire galaxy speaking English? Does that mean the British empire conquered an entire galaxy in Star Wars universe?
Also if only the bandits speak Pandoran while the main characters speak English wouldn't that mean all the civilized people (good or bad) speak English while the savages speak their native language?

[Just another Ian]

Originally posted by ChickenBalls:

Originally posted by Holografix:

why ask the US congress? Lara is British.

exactly

the op is from the US of A according to his profile
which begs to wonder where were those sjws when the fat guy with orange hair was putting up that wall

Originally posted by Holografix:

they do. the bandits speak pandoran. everyone else is from a different planet.

Vader speaks Galatic Basic which is basically english.
"Lucas intended to balance American accents and British accents between the heroes and villains of the original film. He also strove to keep accents "very neutral", noting Alec Guinness's and Peter Cushing's mid-Atlantic accents.[8] In critical commentary on Episode I – The Phantom Menace, Patricia Williams of The Nation felt there was a correlation between accent and social class, noting that Jedi speak with "crisp British accents" while the "graceful conquered women of the Naboo" and "white slaves" such as Anakin and Shmi Skywalker "speak with the brusque, determined innocence of middle-class Americans"
-- from the wiki
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Languages_in_Star_Wars#Galactic_Basic

which should upset people like the op way more than Lara not speaking Spanish, right?
I mean an entire galaxy speaking English? Does that mean the British empire conquered an entire galaxy in Star Wars universe?
Also if only the bandits speak Pandoran while the main characters speak English wouldn't that mean all the civilized people (good or bad) speak English while the savages speak their native language?

She is literally in another country. If you are going to visit a country that speaks another language it is on you to learn that language to the point you can have simple conversations.

[Just another Ian]

Originally posted by forgot my name:

Originally posted by Polyhedrion:

Actually I can not switch to any dub except English. No matter if I try from the main menu, in game, or the launcher.

I guess your windows is set up for English and/or steam preferred language is also English hence the language pack install. I've seen the game running in Spanish and German so it must be something at your end. I'm sure the customer support can help you on this matter.

@Holografix: Do you really think it will be another language pack added to this game to match your request?
Sorry, it's pointless to continue and get banned by steam (can't figure out if is the love for trolls or the hate for normal people). Your complain is idiotic to no end based on a single click in the right place and all the arguments you bring are even more so.

And just to be clear and maybe, maybe you see how stupid it sounds: A British native woman at her early 20 who talks Spanish with British accent. That is Lara Croft as character or at least this is how you thing she should be.

I just can't continue with this debate as it might be contagious and I really don't want to end up like you.

Originally posted by fuyres:

Laura????

Yes, Laura Granjam main character in the game "sombra del asaltante de la tumba" get use to it. Or maybe you didn't heard about Jaime Vínculo either [www.google.com]

I speak Spanish without my own native accent. It is really is not that hard. When I visit Mexico I speak Spanish. It is disrespectful to expect other people to speak your language when you are in their country.

[Just another Ian]

Originally posted by Holografix:

Originally posted by ChickenBalls:

Why don't the Borderlands characters speak Pandoran?

they do. the bandits speak pandoran. everyone else is from a different planet.

Originally posted by ChickenBalls:

Why doesn't Darth Vader speak whatever language they speak in his universe?

Vader speaks Galatic Basic which is basically english.
"Lucas intended to balance American accents and British accents between the heroes and villains of the original film. He also strove to keep accents "very neutral", noting Alec Guinness's and Peter Cushing's mid-Atlantic accents.[8] In critical commentary on Episode I – The Phantom Menace, Patricia Williams of The Nation felt there was a correlation between accent and social class, noting that Jedi speak with "crisp British accents" while the "graceful conquered women of the Naboo" and "white slaves" such as Anakin and Shmi Skywalker "speak with the brusque, determined innocence of middle-class Americans"
-- from the wiki
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Languages_in_Star_Wars#Galactic_Basic

Originally posted by ChickenBalls:

maybe you should ask members of the US Congress why they don't allow refugees from South America enter your country

why ask the US congress? Lara is british.

Lol, this conversation isn't about Darth Vader, it is about Lara.

[Just another Ian]

Originally posted by ChickenBalls:

Why don't the Borderlands characters speak Pandoran?
Why doesn't Darth Vader speak whatever language they speak in his universe?

Originally posted by Polyhedrion:

It is really strange and off putting Laura speaks English when asking people who speak only Spanish and maybe their local language questions. It comes across as her being arrogant. I get that they probably only hired an English speaking voice actor only to save on the budget.

maybe you should ask members of the US Congress why they don't allow refugees from South America enter your country

You are comparing worlds that are completely fantasy with a fantasy world that takes place in a fictional real world. They are two completely different things. You are mistaken if you think congress would listen to anyone but those that pay them. They make way more from lobyists than anyone else.

[Holografix]

Originally posted by Polyhedrion:

She is literally in another country. If you are going to visit a country that speaks another language it is on you to learn that language to the point you can have simple conversations.

Even more to the point, Lara is an archaeologist adventurer par-excellence. She understands Quiche which is spoken by the inhabitants of Paititi. She learns to read all those ancient languages on the totems and her speaking their tongue would only serve to bring the game up to the level of realism that Shadow of the Tomb Raider attempts. I'm pretty sure Lara would be speaking Quiche while in Paititi, since she's all about ancient artifacts and languages.

The only way I think the game gets away with Lara speaking English in Paititi is via the story that the leader of Trinity is from Paititi and probably taught the inhabitants how to speak different languages, or if not speak, at least understand.

[Holografix]

Originally posted by forgot my name:

I can't believe you guys make such a fuzz because an option (which can be turned off) proved to be a bad choice. Switch off the immersion and move along.
Never heard any accusation about Han Solo or Yoda not speaking Shyriiwook. Thykarann or Xaczik. Also Anakin, Luke, Obi-Wan and many others not speaking binary.
Lara wasn't speaking Russian either in RotTR. What is the big deal?

Why is Star Wars suddenly the go-to example to show how OP's argument about Lara's language ability in SotTR is fallacious?

Star Wars has no relation to Tomb Raider.

I'll reiterate my position about Lara's language ability here:
-- Lara should speak all those ancient languages. She's a genius archaeologist-adventurer and having her speak those languages only helps immersion and realism in the Tomb Raider games. She actually learns to read Mam, Quechua, and Yucatec in-game from those totems. Why not have her speak them? It would just make SotTR a cooler game. --

[Holografix]

Originally posted by forgot my name:

Originally posted by Holografix:

Why is Star Wars suddenly the go-to example to show how OP's argument about Lara's language ability in SotTR is fallacious?

Star Wars has no relation to Tomb Raider.

I'll reiterate my position about Lara's language ability here:
-- Lara should speak all those ancient languages. She's a genius archaeologist-adventurer and having her speak those languages only helps immersion and realism in the Tomb Raider games. She actually learns to read Mam, Quechua, and Yucatec in-game from those totems. Why not have her speak them? It would just make SotTR a cooler game. --

Originally posted by Polyhedrion:

It is really strange and off putting Laura speaks English when asking people who speak only Spanish and maybe their local language questions. It comes across as her being arrogant. I get that they probably only hired an English speaking voice actor only to save on the budget.

Where to start? OP should be polite and have a drop of respect to some one who made something he can't. A bad option in game, I agree. Also I ignore it and still able to enjoy a good story. Also the game offers many languages for voice over and he can choose Spanish language for dialog. So is not like "they only hired an English speaking voice actor only to save on the budget".

About Lara, you can say she's "genius archaeologist-adventurer" at the end of the game since this is all about in the reboot trilogy.
Let me ask you something but be honest: if it wasn't any immersion option (default off) like it was in RotTR you would still complain?

Aside all this, most of the time I treat people just how they treat others and if they take offense because of that I'm sorry they do.

Personally, SotTR is my favorite Tomb Raider game. I think it has the deepest story and great characterization of Lara, Jonah and the rest of the characters. I like how Lara's arc is about her reconciling the trauma of her past with the actions of her father. The game lightly and subtly touches upon some tough themes like euro colonization, english exploitation of other cultures, artwork theft, even Lara's difficulty with accepting her father's distant presence. All these themes swirl in SotTR's story. I liked the ending too, when Lara makes the decision to sit behind a desk instead of go out and steal artifacts in the name of english imperialism. It's a tough subject, but this game does it well.

If the game didn't have the immersion option and the people of Paititi spoke english, I would still argue that the game and it's themes would be better served by having the people speak Mam, Quechua, or Yucatec. It's not a blight on the game that Lara doesn't speak spanish or Mam, Quechua, and Yucatec, but it does somewhat break immersion in an otherwise fantastic game.

It's the same thing for Rise as well.

[Just another Ian]

Originally posted by forgot my name:

Originally posted by Holografix:

Why is Star Wars suddenly the go-to example to show how OP's argument about Lara's language ability in SotTR is fallacious?

Star Wars has no relation to Tomb Raider.

I'll reiterate my position about Lara's language ability here:
-- Lara should speak all those ancient languages. She's a genius archaeologist-adventurer and having her speak those languages only helps immersion and realism in the Tomb Raider games. She actually learns to read Mam, Quechua, and Yucatec in-game from those totems. Why not have her speak them? It would just make SotTR a cooler game. --

Originally posted by Polyhedrion:

It is really strange and off putting Laura speaks English when asking people who speak only Spanish and maybe their local language questions. It comes across as her being arrogant. I get that they probably only hired an English speaking voice actor only to save on the budget.

Where to start? OP should be polite and have a drop of respect to some one who made something he can't. A bad option in game, I agree. Also I ignore it and still able to enjoy a good story. Also the game offers many languages for voice over and he can choose Spanish language for dialog. So is not like "they only hired an English speaking voice actor only to save on the budget".

About Lara, you can say she's "genius archaeologist-adventurer" at the end of the game since this is all about in the reboot trilogy.
Let me ask you something but be honest: if it wasn't any immersion option (default off) like it was in RotTR you would still complain?

Aside all this, most of the time I treat people just how they treat others and if they take offense because of that I'm sorry they do.

I see criticism as a sign of respect. If I did not like the game I would not bother to criticize it. I personally like receiving constructive criticism as long as people aren't starting with insults to make a point. If I hear that I stop listening.

[ChickenBalls]

Originally posted by Polyhedrion:

She is literally in another country. If you are going to visit a country that speaks another language it is on you to learn that language to the point you can have simple conversations.

lol this is a freaking video game not the real life
and also how many countries have you been to?
and have you actually learned how to communicate in their languages before you went there?

You are comparing worlds that are completely fantasy with a fantasy world that takes place in a fictional real world. They are two completely different things.

A video game set in a fictional "real world" is not more real than games and movies set in alien world. They are as you said fiction.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/fiction
"Definition of fiction:
something invented by the imagination or feigned specifically : an invented story "
Shouldn't you complain even more about Hollywood movies and quite a few other games?

You are mistaken if you think congress would listen to anyone but those that pay them. They make way more from lobyists than anyone else.

and you think complaining about a fictional game character whom you think should speak your language would make a difference?
Don't you think there are way more injustices out there worth your time?
You know like the fact that the entire South America (minus Brazil) speak Spanish in the first place. I hope you know what your ancestors did to those poor natives.