Lara is the villain?!

[Doc]

I am only at the start but (minor spoiler ahead) Lara has already killed hundreds of innocent people and doesn't give a f*** about it. Ok; it was an involuntary action but the villain's first goal is to fix the mess, while Lara's only objective is to beat him in a race.
The main character of the game can share the name with her, but she's not Lara Croft.

[MonkeyGamesVR]

Anyone can be whatever you want it to be, thats the gamers fanatsy in a nutshell...


🙏namasté.

[MightyJean]

No she isn't, play the game more.

[hagakuremoi]

No, she is not.

[Andr0ID]

Like the previous comment said.
She can be a villain, it completely depends on your perception.

Maybe she has saved o lot of people, but killed a lot in the process.
For some, shell be a hero, for others she will forever be the villain.

[Aku]

That's why they call it "Shadow..."

[IchigoMait]

The beginning was maybe a supernatural event or a chain reaction of earthquake triggered by her, then that causing an avalance and etc.
Well the only reason she isn't a villain for some is because of the supernatural phenomenon that happened in the end basically saying everything is okay because she saved the entire existence from turning into a world where peeps like pirates, greedy ♥♥♥♥♥, and etc. wouldn't exist.
Considering the main "villain" just tried to save his own people from being wiped away culturally.
Both are purists in their own regard.
In the end, loads of people died for basically nothing because of Lara.
If the native villager had succeeded he would've gotten rid of bad peeps who threaten his village, plus everybody innocent who died would probably be still alive.

[Doc]

Originally posted by IchigoMait:

The beginning was maybe a supernatural event or a chain reaction of earthquake triggered by her, then that causing an avalance and etc.
Well the only reason she isn't a villain for some is because of the supernatural phenomenon that happened in the end basically saying everything is okay because she saved the entire existence from turning into a world where peeps like pirates, greedy ♥♥♥♥♥, and etc. wouldn't exist.
Considering the main "villain" just tried to save his own people from being wiped away culturally.
Both are purists in their own regard.
In the end, loads of people died for basically nothing because of Lara.
If the native villager had succeeded he would've gotten rid of bad peeps who threaten his village, plus everybody innocent who died would probably be still alive.

This.
The thing that hurt me most is that Lara simply didn't care.
"We must help these people"
"Nah, let's find a plane"

[Nihil]

Pretty much one of the many issues with these new adaptation of the Tomb Raider franchise.
It went full pew pew action game.

[Repaterion]

Originally posted by Nihilus:

Pretty much one of the many issues with these new adaptation of the Tomb Raider franchise.
It went full pew pew action game.

Uncharted with a chick...

[Helen Magnus]

I'm sorry but do you really want her to cry everytime? Certainly don't see that with any male characters who do the same thing. I'm playing Witcher 3 and Assassin's Creed Brotherhood right now and those guys can kill a lot. Haven't seen anyone posting that they must be villains of any sort.

[EzRyder]

I get your point @ Helen Magnus but really in those games you ARE the villian, Assasin's Creed your an 'assasin' and in W3 your a 'mutant monster killer', an outcast, in a world where monster killers are almost extent and obsolete - here your a 'indiana jones' type that is 'supposed' to be the hero to most

[Helen Magnus]

Originally posted by CaptRyder:

I get your point @ Helen Magnus but really in those games you ARE the villian, Assasin's Creed your an 'assasin' and in W3 your a 'mutant monster killer', an outcast, in a world where monster killers are almost extent and obsolete - here your a 'indiana jones' type that is 'supposed' to be the hero to most

Just because others see them as villains, doesn't make them so. All three have their own objectives and I don't see any of them as villains. None are out to cause chaos in their worlds but to fix things.

[destroyhimmyrobot]

The part that made me completely write-off this version of Lara is SPOILERS The part where she thinks Jonah has been killed and she just goes on a insane rampage and kills a ton of people for no reason, one guy is trying to crawl away and Lara pulls her knife and murders him in cold-blood (like WTF). Then after she kills an entire towns worth of people and gets knocked out she realizes she just acted like a pyschopathic 5 year old, and literally like 2 seconds later, it's business as usual! Whoever wrote her did a terrible job imoOverall I found Lara to be incredibly unlikable in this game. This is the 3rd game, and instead of maturing she acts more selfish/arrogant than ever. All of her decisions in the game except like 2 (which are completely out of character for her) are based on her being a immature, selfish, and revenge fueled pyscho. The "main Villian" shows way more compassion throughout the game than she does. Not a fan of what they did to her this time.

[DrNewcenstein]

Apparently none of you have actually listened to the dialogue.

Whoever wields this magical power gets to reshape the entire world. Dr Dooshminguez is not going to put a bubble around Paititi and hide it from the world, he's going to destroy the entire world except for Paititi. That's the power you get. That's the power he wants. AND he wants to set himself up as Lord High Ruler of whatever's left.

He works for Trinity. Trinity wants to be Lord High Rulers of the entire world. Whether Dr Dominguez is honestly going to turn it all against them - after decades of indoctrination by them - and destroy them along with the rest of the world, or if he's intending to simply take a leadership position in Trinity and they're ALL going to rule whatever's left, or if he's going to hand them the power or an equal share of it, is not disclosed.

Since the High Council dies and therefore Trinity goes extinct, the point is moot. HOWEVER, at the time of Dominguez' plan, that's the plan, and yes, Lara is fueled by revenge. They murdered her father over something as petty as revealing Paititi to the world.

I'm sorry no one ever told you this before, but you forfeit all human, legal, and civil rights when you are a murderous, power-mongering, shadow-government type of organization, employee, and sympathizer, so whatever happens to you when one of your victims fights back is not "murder" or any other defined crime. It's Justice. It's Vengeance. It's reaping what you've sown. It's the consequences of your choices which you are not free from.

Yes, Lara went on a killing spree. Yes she butchered the guy on the beach. Did you close your sensitive little eyes and not see that he was pointing a gun at her, and he wasn't authorized by any legal Government to arrest her for any crime? He was a mercenary. A Trinity henchman. Explain to me in great detail how he deserved to live, given that he shares in the responsibility of what Lara assumed to be Jonah's murder, as well as the murder of countless other civilians.

Did you not watch the scene where they were killing the workers who dug up the entrance to the temple? They murdered innocent people whom they hired to dig out the entrance to the temple.
What, you think the World Court should decide their fate? Lara should have called Interpol and filled out affidavits and given her sworn testimony in The Hague?

Yes, Lara, like a doofus, set off the tsunami that wiped out the village and killed hundreds of thousands, even after reading the warning signs OUT LOUD.

But let's review:

This is actually supposed to be "the real world" where all this supernatural mumbo-jumbo is mumbo-jumbo, and simply removing a knife from a pedestal cannot possibly trigger a tsunami, because the 4,000 year old civilization who put the knife on the pedestal could not have dug under the ocean to attach a pressure plate that was precision-tuned to the weight of this dagger and thus trigger the earthquake that causes the tsunami.

Hence, the warning on the wall was to thwart thieves who would have simply stolen the dagger and sold it for booze and loose women.

Not that any ancient civilization ever had enough sense to use more common materials because they were stupid enough to believe that things like gold, silver, jade, rubies, etc were somehow "closer to "The Gods" " than the more common materials which were more plentiful and the building blocks of the entire freaking planet. Hence, these "precious" metals and gems were naught but temptation. Had they consecrated a hand-carved wooden dagger wrapped in leather and hand-painted, it would have been just as good as far as "The Gods" were concerned because it came from the heart. It would also be worth a half of a dried fish on a good day, and thus no thief in his right mind would expend the effort to break into the temple to steal it.

Yes, Lara Croft killed hired guns and henchman who were only in it for a paycheck, with the same vigor as she killed the people who actually believed that a murderous, war-mongering, shadow government organization were doing "God's Work". Why is this a problem?

[Aku]

The whole plot is mumbo jumbo. I like the game for the tombs and the puzzles.