People are crazy.

[Fatherdaeth]

What the hell happened to people... We are lucky we have anyone making games like this for such a greedy and spoiled society.

I just bought this game and couldnt put it down for 3 hours and only because I needed to write a review.
Ive been putting off getting this game for a while and I'm amazed at how much crap it's gotten from people.

After the first 30 seconds of the game I knew right then that I would be playing all the way through this to the end and that's something that is really hard for me to do anymore.

The 3 hours I played so far had already brought a tear to my eye from the events that happened and the emotion in Lara's voice.

This game has got the best graphics of any game I have ever played and somehow it runs better than the other two. I have never seen a game look so damn good. It's incredible. The videos on the store page do not do it justice. I know that not everyone will get to experience the game at 4k hdr on ultra but I am using a 7700k 1080ti 16gb ram nothing is overclocked and everything is turned up to the highest and I only did that for♥♥♥♥♥♥s and gigs. Didn't think it'd actually run it.

The sound the environment the gameplay, animation, tombs, crypts everything is just incredible.

So far I already feel like this will be the best one I have played yet. The story got me hooked right away and the world is just so damn immersive. The controls are super responsive and somehow the animation is still flawless. The gunplay feels a hell of alot better than the other two. This game is an a achievement and we are lucky to have developers spending as much money as they do making games for such a♥♥♥♥♥♥poor society. It' s just getting ridiculous to the point i'm almost ashamed to call myself a gamer anymore.

People complain when companies try to make a buck off of their hard work. These people spend years and money and are stressed to the max creating these games for us. They also have families and bills to pay of their own and you invest in something to make money. I'ts always been that way. The price of video games has not gone up in the entire 30+ years I have been gaming. As a matter of fact mario bros 3 was 80 dollars when it came out... literally everything has gone up in cost except video games.. so yea they need to make it up somehow. You have jackasses on patreon milking people for 25k a month on absolutely nothing that they call a game or whatever it may be that they never finish cuz why the hell would they? if they finish it = no more 25k a month lol but no one ♥♥♥♥♥es about that. People are ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥..

Anyway sorry for the rant.. This game is ♥♥♥♥ing incredible.

[Frietbal]

The game is certainly very good, but when compared to rise I found the story less captivating, the 'villain' less identified, and the action, while good, a bit too scattered.
The graphics were among the best I've seen, as is overall level design when it comes to details of items placed in the area. That mission of San Juan looked great, and most things did.
I would have loved a bit more lineair level crunching that Rise did offer though.
Still this was a great game.

[tanman500]

Publicado originalmente por Frietbal:

The game is certainly very good, but when compared to rise I found the story less captivating, the 'villain' less identified, and the action, while good, a bit too scattered.
The graphics were among the best I've seen, as is overall level design when it comes to details of items placed in the area. That mission of San Juan looked great, and most things did.
I would have loved a bit more lineair level crunching that Rise did offer though.
Still this was a great game.

The main thing that bugs me about Shadow is the lack of detail in the animations compared to Rise. Although Lara and the main cast of characters has great animations, many of the NPCs are sorely lacking in this department. The villagers in Paititi look terrible, with juttery movements and bad facial animations.

I never cared too much for the story in the Tomb Raider games. The cinematics and writing are great in Shadow of the Tomb Raider imo.

I would love a Tomb Raider 2 Remake. They could take the combat and controls from the reboots, and use the level and character designs from the original. I can only imagine the Italy level with modern graphics, Lara just crashing through the building in her boat xD.

[tramper]

Publicado originalmente por Frietbal:

The game is certainly very good, but when compared to rise I found the story less captivating, the 'villain' less identified, and the action, while good, a bit too scattered.
The graphics were among the best I've seen, as is overall level design when it comes to details of items placed in the area. That mission of San Juan looked great, and most things did.
I would have loved a bit more lineair level crunching that Rise did offer though.
Still this was a great game.

I hope you are just comparing graphics to the TR series .

[Mavi]

Publicado originalmente por tramper:

Publicado originalmente por Frietbal:

The game is certainly very good, but when compared to rise I found the story less captivating, the 'villain' less identified, and the action, while good, a bit too scattered.
The graphics were among the best I've seen, as is overall level design when it comes to details of items placed in the area. That mission of San Juan looked great, and most things did.
I would have loved a bit more lineair level crunching that Rise did offer though.
Still this was a great game.

I hope you are just comparing graphics to the TR series .

Please, name counter examples, so we all can see games that look that much better.

[tanman500]

Publicado originalmente por Mavi:

Publicado originalmente por tramper:

I hope you are just comparing graphics to the TR series .

Please, name counter examples, so we all can see games that look that much better.

I mean if someone was playing Shadow of the Tomb Raider on ps4, I would totally understand their point of view. SOTTR doesn't raise the bar in graphics, but it still looks absolutely incredible on pc. I think 60fps really helps the experience. Otherwise games like Uncharted and God of War look a good deal better on consoles.

Once the 9th generation consoles come out, console gamers will be able to play SOTTR at 60FPS on the highest settings.

[Mavi]

We're on PC here, though.

[tanman500]

Publicado originalmente por Mavi:

We're on PC here, though.

That's true! And I think that's the reason why you think Shadow of the Tomb Raider looks so beautiful. I mean, what is there to compare it to on pc? Hellblade? Assassin's Milk? Battlefield? On consoles, there's games like God of War, Uncharted, and Red Dead Redemption 2. So there's a lot of amazing looking games on the aging consoles, that look and run better than SOTTR. But on pc, we don't have a benchmark game like we did back in 2011. Games such as the Witcher 2, Crysis and Battlefield 3 delivered next generation graphics on high end pcs. Nowdays, all we have is next generation shadows and reflections on overpriced graphics cards that'll be outdated in 6 months. I'm sure once Red Dead 2 hits the pc, that will be the next benchmark for pc gaming. Until Cyberpunk 2077 comes out at least.

[robs2010mazda6s]

Publicado originalmente por Mavi:

We're on PC here, though.

Which means next to nothing considering the wide variation of hardware from some being toasters less capable than a base ps4 to others which are fairly high end to extremely high end.. looking around the forums though at complaints etc and seeing peoples specs most people around here have pretty terrible hardware, not everyone.. but a good majority certainly does.

Publicado originalmente por iamtoxic500:

I mean if someone was playing Shadow of the Tomb Raider on ps4, I would totally understand their point of view. SOTTR doesn't raise the bar in graphics, but it still looks absolutely incredible on pc. I think 60fps really helps the experience. Otherwise games like Uncharted and God of War look a good deal better on consoles.

Once the 9th generation consoles come out, console gamers will be able to play SOTTR at 60FPS on the highest settings.

Actually SOTTR is a very good looking game even on the base ps4 and an even better looking game on the PRO... in fact i'd wager most of you wouldnt be able in a blind study to tell them apart from (console vs pc.. especially the pro version) aside from the FPS difference and even then the 30fps on console due to low latency and very tight frame pacing looks and feels far smoother than it does when you simply cap the frame rate to 30fps on the PC.. Take it from someone who has a PS4 PRO and a High end rig with a RTX 2080@2100mhz core +750mem, 8700k@5ghz and 16GB DDR4 3600mhz ram.


Drakes Uncharted, GOW4 etc are also great looking games but SOTTR is right up there with them easily on the console and surpasses Uncharted 4 over all visually.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LzMHBslNLAM
The difference in visuals isnt anything at all like most of you would like to believe..... Obviously the real advantage on the PC version is the ability to play at 60fps with a high resolution (like I do) given you have the hardware for it but truth be told a good majority of people around here slamming the consoles are the very ones getting their PC's out done by them and that's the part that cracks me up the most.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBwiWiCyV0s


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFllaPnmEP8

[tanman500]

Publicado originalmente por robs2010mazda6s:

Publicado originalmente por Mavi:

We're on PC here, though.

Which means next to nothing considering the wide variation of hardware from some being toasters less capable than a base ps4 to others which are fairly high end to extremely high end.. looking around the forums though at complaints etc and seeing peoples specs most people around here have pretty terrible hardware, not everyone.. but a good majority certainly does.

Publicado originalmente por iamtoxic500:

I mean if someone was playing Shadow of the Tomb Raider on ps4, I would totally understand their point of view. SOTTR doesn't raise the bar in graphics, but it still looks absolutely incredible on pc. I think 60fps really helps the experience. Otherwise games like Uncharted and God of War look a good deal better on consoles.

Once the 9th generation consoles come out, console gamers will be able to play SOTTR at 60FPS on the highest settings.

Actually SOTTR is a very good looking game even on the base ps4 and an even better looking game on the PRO... in fact i'd wager most of you wouldnt be able in a blind study to tell them apart from (console vs pc.. especially the pro version) aside from the FPS difference and even then the 30fps on console due to low latency and very tight frame pacing looks and feels far smoother than it does when you simply cap the frame rate to 30fps on the PC.. Take it from someone who has a PS4 PRO and a High end rig with a RTX 2080@2100mhz core +750mem, 8700k@5ghz and 16GB DDR4 3600mhz ram.


Drakes Uncharted, GOW4 etc are also great looking games but SOTTR is right up there with them easily on the console and surpasses Uncharted 4 over all visually.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LzMHBslNLAM
The difference in visuals isnt anything at all like most of you would like to believe..... Obviously the real advantage on the PC version is the ability to play at 60fps with a high resolution (like I do) given you have the hardware for it but truth be told a good majority of people around here slamming the consoles are the very ones getting their PC's out done by them and that's the part that cracks me up the most.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBwiWiCyV0s


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFllaPnmEP8

Yeah you are right about SOTTR graphically looking about the same on consoles vs pc. The main difference is performance. On the original xbox one and ps4, the framerate frequently dips below 30fps when you roam around San Juan and Piatiti. My pc is far from perfect, running at around 40+fps in these areas. That's because of my old CPU being the bottleneck. But that's still much better than the xbox one.

I personally think Uncharted 4 looks better than SOTTR. More detail in the environment, better animations, better shaders, better lighting, better character models, pants get wet in water, better performance on consoles. But SOTTR still looks very beautiful, especially on pc.

And never lock a pc game to 30fps, the stuttering from variable frametimes looks terrible. I would much rather play at 40fps on pc than a locked 30, which actually feels like 22fps on pc.

[robs2010mazda6s]

Publicado originalmente por iamtoxic500:

Yeah you are right about SOTTR graphically looking about the same on consoles vs pc. The main difference is performance.

Right, I specified that.

Publicado originalmente por iamtoxic500:

I personally think Uncharted 4 looks better than SOTTR.

Yeah thinking on this again I would agree, its just been a very long time since I played through it and I forgot about some of the locations.

Publicado originalmente por iamtoxic500:

And never lock a pc game to 30fps, the stuttering from variable frametimes looks terrible.

I have found that varies from game to game though... some of them actually are very smooth and have good frame pacing while others are horrible but it does help tremendously if you use a controller instead of a keyboard and mouse when you do a 30fps cap and also if you have nvidia and a 60hz monitor setting the vsync to adaptive half refresh is WAY smoother than simply capping the frame rate to 30fps via riva tuner.

Publicado originalmente por iamtoxic500:

I would much rather play at 40fps on pc than a locked 30, which actually feels like 22fps on pc.

Again depends on the game, as I said before some are actually very console like at 30fps using a controller while others are a mess... Id rather have a consistent frame rate in a game with good frame pacing than have a fluctuating all over the place frame rate, to me the latter is far worse and less smooth but again it depends on frame pacing.

[tramper]

Publicado originalmente por Mavi:

Publicado originalmente por tramper:

I hope you are just comparing graphics to the TR series .

Please, name counter examples, so we all can see games that look that much better.

If you know games its not that hard.
Out of all my games The Witcher 3 Wild Hunt beats them all hands down, i also have all the TR's so i can compare them, Metro LL is also up there, FC5 is ahead of SOTTR as is ROTTR, i do play these all in 4k however.
As much as i'm a fan of TR and not being biased, i do see other games that do have better graphics, i'm looking forward to Metro Exodus.
Take your blinkers off and do a google as well, might open your eyes up.

[Thumper]

Tramper, I can agree n disagree with what you state. But in the end, I see very little difference from 1 game to another. Granted some look n play better. All this falls to the developers people working on said game and there budget of course.

Todays standards far exceed those bygone days. To compare game gfx is futile. I have and played many games and IMHO, the detail does not really come to life unless you stop to take it all in. I run thru a game at a very fast pace, TR is no different, it looks great and runs well. Thats all that really matters in the end. Right?

[tramper]

Publicado originalmente por Thumper:

Tramper, I can agree n disagree with what you state. But in the end, I see very little difference from 1 game to another. Granted some look n play better. All this falls to the developers people working on said game and there budget of course.

Todays standards far exceed those bygone days. To compare game gfx is futile. I have and played many games and IMHO, the detail does not really come to life unless you stop to take it all in. I run thru a game at a very fast pace, TR is no different, it looks great and runs well. Thats all that really matters in the end. Right?

For me The Witcher 3 is one game i stop and look at the scenery, Metro LL i stop and just look at the destruction of Moscow, i don't run through games, it takes me ages to do them, i'm still playing Skyrim with 4000+ plus hours, the modding community keeps this going, FC3 1700 + hours.
To say that SOTTR has the best graphics is personal choice or you haven't played that many games with decent graphics, it only makes a couple of lists of the best graphical games out there, but like i said, i've been playing TR since it first came out and i will admit there are games out there that do have better graphics.
I wouldn't go on The Witcher 3 forums and state its the best looking game ever, even though its up there, because i know that there are games that still go that little bit further.

[Thumper]

I see where your going. I have W3 also but found it hard to play. I put close to 700+ hrs in a game, and play it to death. W3 is a good looking game yes. As is TR, I just don't always stop long enough to take it all in. Even cut scenes, with all the dev's hard work in there for you to take in, I just want to skip thru it and keep moving. But I do stop from time 2 time, just to see if I got my moneys worth. And you know as well as I, the more you look the more you see.

[Frietbal]

Are that heavy specs even required for this game? I run an I5-6600K with GTX970 and those barely even need to increase fan-speed when running the game, and I run it at max detail.