How tall is Lara Croft?

[Mandy Lane]

well.. how tall is she? also, i think in shadow game, for the first time theres a height difference between lara and other people such as the people in kawak yaku, hidden city. etc, makes game very realistic.

and second question. How old is she?

[Blehh.....]

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No the original was not a kids game, it was rated 15+ when it came out due to violence, blood, horror themes and Lara being capable of dieing in a lot of horrible ways.
You can play through SotTR as original Lara, it's one of the available costumes, so go for it, but she does not blend in with the rest of the game whatsoever.

Oh. I saw, they need to update the graphics on her but still keep the original look, just with updated graphics to todays standard or the game's standard so it doesn't look out of place...

[DrNewcenstein]

The character was created in 1996, and it's 2022 now, so this fictional character is about 26 years old.

The height depends on the original scale factor used in the 3D modeling program used to make the model. Could be 12" tall, could be 12 feet tall, and everything else scaled accordingly, but my guess is they stuck with a height that is suitable for scene framing.

Hollywood learned early on that framing "tall dark and handsome" men with "average" women was difficult, particularly for romantic scenes, because the height difference made intimate close-ups problematic, but pulling the camera too far back took away the intimacy, so they tried to use leading men who were short, rather than try to find tall women. Tall women in domestic scenes (kitchen, etc) doesn't work because the cabinetry and appliances revealed how tall they were, especially in (unrealistic) heels. Women had to be portrayed as "lesser than men" in Hollywood, so they needed short women, but again, the man couldn't be too much taller because of camera framing, so to make the woman appear to be small in the kitchen, the guy had to be shorter than the fridge, but able to reach the top shelf to help the poor defenseless high-heeled housewife who put the item up there to begin with.
Hedy Lamarr was 5'7", Katharine Hepburn was 5'8". Vivien Leigh (Scarlett O'Hara) was 5'3", and Clark Gable (Rhett Butler) was 6'1". Lawrence Olivier was 5'10", Marlon Brando was 5'9".

So, it's likely Lara Croft is 5'7", because this is Angelina Jolie's height, and because tall women portray strong female characters more easily. Ever wonder why Ripley was such a badass in Alien? Sigourney Weaver was 6ft tall, while Veronica Cartwright was only 5'5".

What made Julie Newmar's Catwoman in the 60s Batman TV show so sexy? Besides her rocket ship (and original Lara Croft) cone-shaped bewbs, she was 5'11", and then they put her in heels to match Adam West's 6'2" Batman.
Eartha Kitt, by comparison, was only 5'4". Halle Berry is only 5'5". Michelle Pfeiffer is 5'7", which is one major reason why her Catwoman was better than Halle Berry's (acting and writing aside). Eartha Kitt had the sultry boner-inducing voice and the purr, though.

And then there was the legendary Julie Strain: "6'1" and worth the climb." was her tag line.

[Chris]

Escrito originalmente por DrNewcenstein:

The character was created in 1996, and it's 2022 now, so this fictional character is about 26 years old.

The height depends on the original scale factor used in the 3D modeling program used to make the model. Could be 12" tall, could be 12 feet tall, and everything else scaled accordingly, but my guess is they stuck with a height that is suitable for scene framing.

Hollywood learned early on that framing "tall dark and handsome" men with "average" women was difficult, particularly for romantic scenes, because the height difference made intimate close-ups problematic, but pulling the camera too far back took away the intimacy, so they tried to use leading men who were short, rather than try to find tall women. Tall women in domestic scenes (kitchen, etc) doesn't work because the cabinetry and appliances revealed how tall they were, especially in (unrealistic) heels. Women had to be portrayed as "lesser than men" in Hollywood, so they needed short women, but again, the man couldn't be too much taller because of camera framing, so to make the woman appear to be small in the kitchen, the guy had to be shorter than the fridge, but able to reach the top shelf to help the poor defenseless high-heeled housewife who put the item up there to begin with.
Hedy Lamarr was 5'7", Katharine Hepburn was 5'8". Vivien Leigh (Scarlett O'Hara) was 5'3", and Clark Gable (Rhett Butler) was 6'1". Lawrence Olivier was 5'10", Marlon Brando was 5'9".

So, it's likely Lara Croft is 5'7", because this is Angelina Jolie's height, and because tall women portray strong female characters more easily. Ever wonder why Ripley was such a badass in Alien? Sigourney Weaver was 6ft tall, while Veronica Cartwright was only 5'5".
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FIRST:
It is highly unlikely that Lara Croft (original) was modelled (in height) after Angela Jolie, since the movie came years later. Above that, original Lara was 1.73 m tall, Jolie is 1.69 m and current Lara is 1.68 m. So, this whole argument is invalid.

SECOND:
The whole Hollywood women in sizes seems nonsensical to me. The described women have very different heights, the guys also. First You argue that women had to be small and so did men, however later examples by yourself are significantly taller.
However, it is logical that the heights of the actors appear to be what is intended by the director, which can be achieved in various ways. Bogart had to stand on a box (or so) to have a good kiss-scene in Casablanca.

[Hotel Security]

>Women had to be portrayed as "lesser than men" in Hollywood, so they needed short women, but again, the man couldn't be too much taller because of camera framing,

This is silly because they can put the men in taller shoes to fix any perceived height issue. There are a LOT of short male actors in Hollywood and there's been a long of chicanery to have them be equal with their female leads.

As for that silly kitchen example, Lucille Ball was 5'7 and there wasn't some issue with the cabinets revealing her height, especially since she often wore heels to be taller. To counter it, Dezi Arnez wore lifts to make sure she wasn't taller than him in heels. Jean Stapleton (All in the Family) was supposedly 5'9. No issues with her kitchen either. This kind of stuff's been going on for decades. Your cartoonish accounts of "evil sexist Hollywood" doesn't apply in a lot of examples.

>So, it's likely Lara Croft is 5'7", because this is Angelina Jolie's height, and because tall women portray strong female characters more easily.

But that's not what happens in the game at all. Lara is shorter than almost everyone in this game, especially Jonah who towers over her. in most scenes You make this long-winded nonsense about tall gals in Hollywood but fail to realize that Lara in this game is not portrayed as tall. She's certainly ripped so this is probably used to explain her toughness but she doesn't tower over anyone.

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It is highly unlikely that Lara Croft (original) was modelled (in height) after Angela Jolie

She doesn't look or act a thing like her either. It's a terrible point.

The whole Hollywood women in sizes seems nonsensical to me.

And not even true in a bunch of instances.

[DrNewcenstein]

Yeah sure whatev look it up.

The Hollywood height issues are documented. Yes, they had actresses stand on boxes and actors wearing lifted shoes, but for the most part they kept them near equal height, which is why "Tracy and Hepburn" were regularly featured together.

It's also well documented how Eyes Wide Shut was problematic for Tom Cruise, because Nicole Kidman was taller than him without heels.

Lucille Ball owned her own production company by the time I Love Lucy was in production, so she didn't have to conform her show to the Hollywood patriarchy. This also kicked off the kitchen remodeling industry, as more and more housewives wanted their kitchens to suit their actual heights, "just like Lucy".

Visual cues like vehicle seats, as well as chairs, ladders, and other furniture are also important in establishing a 3D character's height.

And I did not say the original LC model was based on Angelina's height. Is this the Tomb Raider 1996 forum? No, it's not, so basic common sense should have alerted you to the fact the OP was asking about Shadow, not 1996. I referenced the 1996 game to establish the fictional character's "real" age, because asking how old video game characters are is just beyond comprehension simply because it has no bearing on the game. For story purposes, she's old enough to be in College, and to go on field trips to foreign countries, but still young enough to answer to the Professor (at least in 2013, so she's even older in Shadow).
She's somewhere between 19 and 30. Who cares? What does it really matter?

I also mention Jolie because that was the first live-action adaptation, and the games were still using crappy cartoony models, before Anniversary came out 6 years after the movie, which was the first attempt at making her look more realistic, or at the very least, less cartoony.
She's not a contender for the WNBA but she's not a jockey, either.

Jonah is apparently of part-Polynesian ancestry, and in case you haven't been out that way, they can grow up to be rather tall. They're not all Pygmies.

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She's certainly ripped so this is probably used to explain her toughness but she doesn't tower over anyone.

Lara doesn't even look ripped...maybe tomboyish looking at most but not ripped or at least I wouldn't consider that "ripped". If you want ripped, look at any girl body builders like this one: https://live.staticflickr.com/3359/3342431240_6f061c93c2_b.jpg
or this:
https://scontent.fper8-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/201795582_1642416512622852_4305780950392885372_n.jpg?stp=cp0_dst-jpg_e15_fr_q65&_nc_cat=102&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=8024bb&_nc_ohc=L04zWr9B8n0AX-uDqN6&_nc_ht=scontent.fper8-1.fna&oh=00_AT-adBh5EFIdPu6Wjct4-IyYlM_TaFHx-UwHpHBFXoAvyQ&oe=62CC4B9D
or this:
https://www.digitalmuscle.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/85BD0DEE-9751-4F1A-8BE2-A0D0839EC259.jpeg

Now that's what I call "ripped".

And holy crap you guys are old, referencing people that are now dead or in their 80s or 90s....wwwwwwwaaaaaaaaayyyyyy before I was even born!