Voice-over immersion is silly when Lara only speaks English

[Blingtron]

She can fully understand complex spanish sentences, but only responds in english, and the locals don't bat an eye. Not very immersive, lol

[malaire]

İlk olarak holychair tarafından gönderildi:

This will always be something of a conundrum. They could have made Lara try and speak the native language of the region, and then it would be all subtitles, but as players would we really want that? How would Camilla Luddington fare speaking Spanish and Quechuan? ...

I would prefer that. And if Camilla can't speak needed languages well enough then fire her and get someone else to do the voice acting.

ps. But then I also like listening to YouTube songs in Neapolitan, Armenian, Gagauzian, Albanian, Sardinian, etc. So I guess I could be in minority here.

[Nordomus]

Well Lara doesn't have to speak those languages perfectly, actually it would be even better if she made mistakes.

[malaire]

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And if Camilla can't speak needed languages well enough then fire her and get someone else to do the voice acting.

That would probably mean they'd have to get a new voice actress for Lara every other game, though - next time she might be in China or India.

I would prefer correct language over English even if that means different voice actress for every game.

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ps. But then I also like listening to YouTube songs in Neapolitan, Armenian, Gagauzian, Albanian, Sardinian, etc. So I guess I could be in minority here.

There might be some great lyrics there, but isn't it in general more the sound of the language and intonation combined with the music that's important for you here (rather than the actual meaning of the text)? I like to listen to Japanese, Korean and Chinese ballads because of how they sound, but the actual lyrics (if I find a translation) usually turn out to be cliched love themes like in English too, so it's actually often a good thing I don't understand them.

I do care about lyrics also (when I can find translation or understand what is sung), and I find it fun trying to understand even a little of a language I don't actually know - based on other languages I do know. (e.g. Neapolitan and Sardinian I can understand a bit based on what I know of Italian.)

Also I specifically try to avoid stupid love songs which are far to common in any language.

ps. I just started to search for some songs in Quechua in YouTube :)
https://youtu.be/Rifq8T828Ns?t=31

[EbonHawk]

I have "struggled" internally with this for years, with games and movies. What mix of English to native language is right? It is impossible to quantify, but I prefer a mix of a few key points being in the native language and the use of subtitles. But for it to totally be in a foreign language and I have to resort to using subtitles for 100% of the game or movie, I feel like I start missing out on what's happening on screen when I'm struggling to read and watch at the same time.

Metro 2033 is a great example. The game offers either all spoken Russian, or you can set it to English (with Russian accented) dialog and read subtitles. I tried both and prefer the latter (the mix).

I think Shadow did a great job with the languages.

[Inverse]

The issue is that the "voice-over immersion" breaks immersions more. I can pretend characters speaking in their own languages, and the game being dubbed in English - but making some characters speak their native language, and others (the ones with most lines) English - it just doesn't make any sense to me to call it more immersive.

[paintio]

Not if you play in Spanish.

[Nordomus]

İlk olarak paintio tarafından gönderildi:

Not if you play in Spanish.

But then I guess even main characters talk to themselves in spanish?

[malaire]

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İlk olarak paintio tarafından gönderildi:

Not if you play in Spanish.

But then I guess even main characters talk to themselves in spanish?

Yes, although Spanish language pack does include English audio also, so you can switch between them (but only in main menu, so needs to save, change language, load).

[Blehh.....]

İlk olarak Nordomus tarafından gönderildi:

Yeah it's not how immersive audio suposed to be. Lara should speak native language as well OR they should communicate "hard way".

what is communicate hard way?

İlk olarak CursedPanther tarafından gönderildi:

How would expect them locals to respond though? Start swearing off with '♥♥♥♥♥♥ this and that'?

what is ♥♥♥♥♥♥?

[Hotel Security]

I'd rather everyone just be speaking English. It's very silly to try to pretend you're getting some further immersion by messing with some language settings.

[Blehh.....]

İlk olarak Hotel Security tarafından gönderildi:

I'd rather everyone just be speaking English. It's very silly to try to pretend you're getting some further immersion by messing with some language settings.

Yeah that guy's fix only fixes the spanish part. What about when lara enters patiti or however you spell that, where the villagers obviously don't speak spanish and lara is suddenly speaking spanish to them??

[ChickenBalls]

nice necro

Those in Paititi probably shouldn't even speak Spanish maybe one of Mayan languages
but arguing about which language they speak in video games is just silly
why aren't they speaking French in the A Plague Tale or why arent they speaking Greek only in Assassin's Creed Odyssey etc

[Blehh.....]

İlk olarak ChickenBalls tarafından gönderildi:

nice necro

Those in Paititi probably shouldn't even speak Spanish maybe one of Mayan languages
but arguing about which language they speak in video games is just silly
why aren't they speaking French in the A Plague Tale or why arent they speaking Greek only in Assassin's Creed Odyssey etc

I havent played either of those games so i dont know their language settings....

[ChickenBalls]

lol do you necro all the general discussions of every game you play?

[Blehh.....]

İlk olarak ChickenBalls tarafından gönderildi:

lol do you necro all the general discussions of every game you play?

i only necro if it concerns me...which this does since it is indeed immersion breaking for her not speak native tongue.