GTX 670 FTW SLI

[tragickingdom]

I managed to get this game working on these old GPUs, over a FX-8300 CPU.
average 30fps on High settings.

DirectX 11.

Does not load at all on DX12. Go figure.

[trek554]

why on earth did you not sell that outdated hardware when it was worth something? fooling with SLI is already a bit silly and downright stupid with older gpus. and even a modern low power cpu will be faster than old 8300 for gaming.

[tragickingdom]

It may be old hardware, but the fact that it can play modern day games in high quality is a feat in itself.

I bought these "outdated" parts this year for cheap off ebay replace a very old PC that was running a dual core Opteron 185.
I'm impressed the Eight Core FX-8300 coupled with a couple GTX 670 can hold their own well in Shadow of the Tomb Raider.

Look at some of these screens.
https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198076838606/screenshots/

[trek554]

Do you not realize that even a pitiful old i3 2100 from 8 years ago is faster than your 8300 in video games? Plus that CPU using a fraction of the power.

[tragickingdom]

引用自 trek554：

Do you not realize that even a pitiful old i3 2100 from 8 years ago is faster than your 8300 in video games? Plus that CPU using a fraction of the power.

What are you talking about. the Core i3-2100 is 65w TDP, my FX-8300 is only 95w. That is in line with most top CPUs of today.

The FX-8300 best the i3-2100 severely in CPU mark score.

See: https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/Intel-i3-2100-vs-AMD-FX-8300-Eight-Core/749vs1825


and my system destroys a GTX 670 SLI setup using a i3-2100

https://www.3dmark.com/compare/fs/19487266/fs/14845045


My system is clearly not garbage if it can run the heaviest game in town Shadow of the Tomb Raider.

So miss me with that non-sense.

FYI, I have 3 other custom PCs that are more stacked than this FX,

I have a Ryzen 5 2400G with a GTX 1660Ti, a Ryzen 5 2600 with 980 Ti SLI, and Ryzen Threadripper 2990wx with RX VEGA 56 Crossfire.

[bulletshowerr]

I dont understand you call 30fps as playable and not lowering your graphic to get fps at 60 or higher?

[Seamus]

引用自 tragickingdom：

What are you talking about. the Core i3-2100 is 65w TDP, my FX-8300 is only 95w. That is in line with most top CPUs of today.

https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/AMD-FX-8300-Eight-Core-vs-Intel-i7-8750H/1825vs3237
My laptop demolishing your FX at half the wattage.

Wattage is not a metric you can use to compare cpus.

[tragickingdom]

引用自 Seamus：

引用自 tragickingdom：

What are you talking about. the Core i3-2100 is 65w TDP, my FX-8300 is only 95w. That is in line with most top CPUs of today.

https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/AMD-FX-8300-Eight-Core-vs-Intel-i7-8750H/1825vs3237
My laptop demolishing your FX at half the wattage.

Wattage is not a metric you can use to compare cpus.

I was not using it as a metric the person who I was replying to was. I just pointed out how he had a misperception about the FX-8300 and that somehow the core i3-2100 having a fraction of power which is FALSE.

Also you feel real gauty comparing a 8th gen i7 to 2012 CPU?
Ryzen 3rd gen is around the corner so your mobile i7 days of looking supreme are numbered.

[tragickingdom]

引用自 12345：

I dont understand you call 30fps as playable and not lowering your graphic to get fps at 60 or higher?

constant 30 frames, is very playable.

I've played FPS games on much lower framerates back in the early PC days and especially on game consoles

[Seamus]

引用自 tragickingdom：

引用自 Seamus：

https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/AMD-FX-8300-Eight-Core-vs-Intel-i7-8750H/1825vs3237
My laptop demolishing your FX at half the wattage.

Wattage is not a metric you can use to compare cpus.

I was not using it as a metric the person who I was replying to was. I just pointed out how he had a misperception about the FX-8300 and that somehow the core i3-2100 having a fraction of power which is FALSE.

Actually, he's partially correct. With some recent exceptions, most games are primarily single threaded. And the 2100 beats the 8300 in single thread performance.

引用自 tragickingdom：

Also you feel real gauty comparing a 8th gen i7 to 2012 CPU?
Ryzen 3rd gen is around the corner so your mobile i7 days of looking supreme are numbered.

I was making a point using a low wattage example. Stop with the butthurt.

[tragickingdom]

引用自 Seamus：

引用自 tragickingdom：

I was not using it as a metric the person who I was replying to was. I just pointed out how he had a misperception about the FX-8300 and that somehow the core i3-2100 having a fraction of power which is FALSE.

Actually, he's partially correct. With some recent exceptions, most games are primarily single threaded. And the 2100 beats the 8300 in single thread performance.

引用自 tragickingdom：

Also you feel real gauty comparing a 8th gen i7 to 2012 CPU?
Ryzen 3rd gen is around the corner so your mobile i7 days of looking supreme are numbered.

I was making a point using a low wattage example. Stop with the butthurt.

what game today does not support at least 4-6 threads? The Intel CPUs of that time always did better single thread, but his comparison of a i3-2100 besting a FX-8300 was completely wrong.

I have nothing to be butthurt about. :)

[Seamus]

引用自 tragickingdom：

引用自 Seamus：

Actually, he's partially correct. With some recent exceptions, most games are primarily single threaded. And the 2100 beats the 8300 in single thread performance.



I was making a point using a low wattage example. Stop with the butthurt.

what game today does not support at least 4-6 threads? The Intel CPUs of that time always did better single thread, but his comparison of a i3-2100 besting a FX-8300 was completely wrong.

I have nothing to be butthurt about. :)

So, you didn't even look at the numbers on the page you posted? The 2100 leads the 8300 in single threaded performance.

And yes, you're butthurt or you wouldn't be rambling about the ryzen 3000 series.

And because I know you're going to pull the "BUT YOU'RE JUST AN INTEL FANBOY!" card:
https://www.3dmark.com/pr/91224
My main system runs ryzen.

I'm just not delusional like you.

[tragickingdom]

引用自 Seamus：

引用自 tragickingdom：

what game today does not support at least 4-6 threads? The Intel CPUs of that time always did better single thread, but his comparison of a i3-2100 besting a FX-8300 was completely wrong.

I have nothing to be butthurt about. :)

So, you didn't even look at the numbers on the page you posted? The 2100 leads the 8300 in single threaded performance.

And yes, you're butthurt or you wouldn't be rambling about the ryzen 3000 series.

And because I know you're going to pull the "BUT YOU'RE JUST AN INTEL FANBOY!" card:
https://www.3dmark.com/pr/91224
My main system runs ryzen.

I'm just not delusional like you.

WHAT? Um did I not just write that Intel CPUs have held better single thread performance over AMD or did you just skip that?

No I was not going call you a FANBOY.
I was going to say that You have Gone Full Ret@rd comparing an 8th gen mobile Core i7 to a 2012 AMD FX desktop CPU to brag on your better wattage to performance numbers.

Looking back now I shouldn't have held back.


FYI, I have plenty of Intel based systems.

My 3 laptops are all intel, and that's the way I prefer it. I have one desktop that is a 3rd gen Intel i5 and it was Optiplex given away from my last job. My desktops for the most are AMD and have been that way since I built my first K6-III platform.

[Seamus]

引用自 tragickingdom：

引用自 Seamus：

So, you didn't even look at the numbers on the page you posted? The 2100 leads the 8300 in single threaded performance.

And yes, you're butthurt or you wouldn't be rambling about the ryzen 3000 series.

And because I know you're going to pull the "BUT YOU'RE JUST AN INTEL FANBOY!" card:
https://www.3dmark.com/pr/91224
My main system runs ryzen.

I'm just not delusional like you.

WHAT? Um did I not just write that Intel CPUs have held better single thread performance over AMD or did you just skip that?

No I was not going call you a FANBOY.
I was going to say that You have Gone Full Ret@rd comparing an 8th gen mobile Core i7 to a 2012 AMD FX CPU to brag on your better wattage to performance numbers.

Looking back now I shouldn't have held back.


FYI, I have plenty of Intel based systems.

My 3 laptops are all intel, and that's the way I prefer it. I have one desktop that is a 3rd gen Intel i5 and it was Optiplex given away from my last job. My desktops for the most are AMD and have been that way since I built my first K6-III platform.

https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/Intel-i7-3840QM-vs-AMD-FX-8300-Eight-Core/900vs1825
Oh look. A mobile chip that stomps all over your FX. For half the wattage. From the year before the 8300 launched.

It's almost like FX chips have garbage single thread performance or something.

[trek554]

引用自 tragickingdom：

引用自 trek554：

Do you not realize that even a pitiful old i3 2100 from 8 years ago is faster than your 8300 in video games? Plus that CPU using a fraction of the power.

What are you talking about. the Core i3-2100 is 65w TDP, my FX-8300 is only 95w. That is in line with most top CPUs of today.

The FX-8300 best the i3-2100 severely in CPU mark score.

See: https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/Intel-i3-2100-vs-AMD-FX-8300-Eight-Core/749vs1825


and my system destroys a GTX 670 SLI setup using a i3-2100

https://www.3dmark.com/compare/fs/19487266/fs/14845045


My system is clearly not garbage if it can run the heaviest game in town Shadow of the Tomb Raider.

So miss me with that non-sense.

FYI, I have 3 other custom PCs that are more stacked than this FX,

I have a Ryzen 5 2400G with a GTX 1660Ti, a Ryzen 5 2600 with 980 Ti SLI, and Ryzen Threadripper 2990wx with RX VEGA 56 Crossfire.

I was just giving you an example of an older two core CPU that will even beat yours. There are newer much lower power CPUs that will run circles around yours. And when I get home I can easily link you to some benchmarks that show pretty much every game will show the i3 2100 beating the 8300 and sometimes by significant margin in games.

[trek554]

引用自 tragickingdom：

引用自 Seamus：

Actually, he's partially correct. With some recent exceptions, most games are primarily single threaded. And the 2100 beats the 8300 in single thread performance.



I was making a point using a low wattage example. Stop with the butthurt.

what game today does not support at least 4-6 threads? The Intel CPUs of that time always did better single thread, but his comparison of a i3-2100 besting a FX-8300 was completely wrong.

I have nothing to be butthurt about. :)

Even in games that use more than 4 threads the I3 2100 is faster nearly every time and sometimes Stomps the crap out of 8300. Again I will link to some game benchmarks when I get home this evening for even some brand new games since you are clearly not in touch with reality.