Illusion of choice

[Not Rawr]

The games cool and all but why am I being forced to try educate Robert on racism.
Why is there a disclaimer about prejudice at the start when the game clearly does anything but that.
Where's the choice? I don't want to side with the fish people but I have no choice because it'd be racist and that's wrong? In this time period, in a H.P Lovecraft game? Disappointing.

[cuss]

Believe it or not, Lovecraft was a racist, but that's beside the point. Life is full difficult decisions and sometimes you have to choose sides, make your choice.

[Not Rawr]

Originally posted by cuss:

Believe it or not, Lovecraft was a racist, but that's beside the point. Life is full difficult decisions and sometimes you have to choose sides, make your choice.

I had no choice, I don't like the fish but game says I have to.
With the discussion with Robert it just seems to be because they want force the idea prejudice bad, you shouldn't hate them. etc. etc. They're literally fish created by monsters man, ♥♥♥♥ em.

[cuss]

The game doesn't make you do or think anything, it just offers ideas. What you do is your choice.

[Not Rawr]

Originally posted by cuss:

The game doesn't make you do or think anything, it just offers ideas. What you do is your choice.

Are we even talking about the same game here. What you're saying either makes no sense or is completely wrong.

[BORN2DIE]

The character is not written to be YOU rather he is written to be Charles Reed a character that is not YOU.

Characters can be written with different ideologies, attitudes and ways of thinking based on their life story. For example, Charles Reed could have opinions on racism from serving in the Navy and working alongside people of different backgrounds.

So, yeah, this is a weird thing to focus on in a game that takes a lot of strange takes on the mythos (many of them, sadly, lazy).

If you want to RP a racist I suggest you go play the excellent Disco Elysium (although you might be saddend to hear that no one really likes a racist).

[Not Rawr]

Originally posted by BORN2DIE:

The character is not written to be YOU rather he is written to be Charles Reed a character that is not YOU.

Characters can be written with different ideologies, attitudes and ways of thinking based on their life story. For example, Charles Reed could have opinions on racism from serving in the Navy and working alongside people of different backgrounds.

So, yeah, this is a weird thing to focus on in a game that takes a lot of strange takes on the mythos (many of them, sadly, lazy).

If you want to RP a racist I suggest you go play the excellent Disco Elysium (although you might be saddend to hear that no one really likes a racist).

My issue is more that at every single opportunity the MC will go out of his way to point out how it's bad, despite already stating it already. It's annoying af and feels less about his character and more that they want to educate characters and push the fact the writers think it's wrong. ♥♥♥♥ the fish people though. You choose an option to poison the fish but 5 times in the conversation he has to say you're horrible blah blah blah.

[d3athstroke]

I agree it was stupid.

[Kid Zombie]

It is pretty crazy considering the people of Innsmouth literally made a deal with the deep ones to sacrifice people and their women for the sake of getting rich and fishing; they are also well known for hating outsiders in the Mythos and thinking of themselves as being better than regular humans, who have not been.... blessed. So if anyone is the racists, it is the Innsmouthers.

But I guess they got taught a lesson when Det. Walters blew up the city of the deep ones and the army/G-men destroyed most of Innsmouth in CoC: Dark Corners of the Earth. So maybe we should have some pity on them this time around.

[Colonel Torchere]

Originally posted by cuss:

Believe it or not, Lovecraft was a racist, but that's beside the point. Life is full difficult decisions and sometimes you have to choose sides, make your choice.

This take is wrong as ♥♥♥♥, did you actually read any of his novels about the deep ones?