*SPOILERS* Legram/Lohengrin Castle - that's it?!

[Dragon]

So I found Emma & Laura in Lohengrin Castle. Before I went in I wasted a lot of money on Nightmare accessories because I thought I would be climbing the castle and fighting Nightmare-giving beasts like in CS1.

But instead, all I did was fight one non-Nightmare-giving boss and then leave. That was very underwhelming.

Why didn't they make you climb the whole castle again? Especially since they've already created the whole map. All they'd have to do is copy & paste some enemies in there.

The fight with the students in the gym in CS2 sucked much worse than the fight vs. the students and then the Butler (who does not fight in CS2) in CS1.

Everything about whole Legram visit in CS2 felt very underwhelming. It's like a badly-rehashed and much inferior version of the Legram visit in CS1.

What were they thinking? Did they just stop putting effort at this part of the game, or what?

[Stabbey]

So you would have considered a straight repeat of a late-game dungeon from the previous game as putting MORE effort into the game?

Just because the game doesn't do exactly what you are expecting does not mean that it MUST be laziness.

This is a more of a story-driven game than a dungeon crawler. The story is the point, and the only reason the story sends you there is to re-unite with Laura and Emma. There isn't any need for the story to force you into a 20-minute dungeon to accomplish that.

[Dragon]

Originally posted by Stabbey:

So you would have considered a straight repeat of a late-game dungeon from the previous game as putting MORE effort into the game?

Well, here's the problem with that comment's premise: a straight repeat of the previous game's Legram is what they did in CS2 anyway, with the game as it has been published, but, that repeat is minus the most interesting part of Legram in the first game, which was the Castle.

And it also is minus the other parts that make Legram more interesting & better in the first game, i.e. the Lord of the Manor, the fight vs. the butler, etc.

So ideally, then yes, they wouldn't have repeated anything, and instead they would have made everything fresh & new.

On the other hand, if they are going to repeat stuff, then better to repeat the good/best stuff, instead of omitting it (like CS2 does), while repeating only the more-boring/mediocre stuff.

As for the point that it's a story-based game: yes, but at the same time, they need to make the locations interesting and intriguing and fun to visit. Legram in CS2 suffers in all of those areas for the reasons I've described.

[Spacebar]

Nothing to see here folks. Just your daily Dragon complaining thread.

[Koby]

Originally posted by Spacebar:

Nothing to see here folks. Just your daily Dragon complaining thread.

^ agreed.

[Oguzhan]

Originally posted by Spacebar:

Nothing to see here folks. Just your daily Dragon complaining thread.

Yep.

[davidburkhardt]

Powerful,Undead Fiend moves into castle. Chases off or eats less powerful monsters living there. Fiend gets killed by heroes, several months later some normal monsters start moving back in. Sounds reasonable to me.