The Legend of Heroes: Trails of Cold Steel II

The Legend of Heroes: Trails of Cold Steel II

Dragon Mar 18, 2019 @ 12:42pm
Looks like there will be a 5th Cold Steel game
Check out this link:

https://www.dualshockers.com/falcom-kiseki-new-games-ys-ix-monstrum-nox-motion-capture/

Kondo once again repeated that they’re working on the next main Kiseki series game, but that they also wish to make another new game linked to Trails of Cold Steel, to cover events that weren’t shown in the four Trails of Cold Steel games.

Falcom is already hard at work on the next main Kiseki game, and seeing it’s a big game that will take a while, they decided to split the Kiseki development team in two, so fans won’t wait too long for another game. The second team is working on another game which should release sooner. This second team will basically handle side stories-like games, showing us elements in the Kiseki series we’ve always wanted to know, or letting us do things we’ve always wanted to do.

So if that is true, then it proves wrong posts on this board that say things like side games such as Trails in the Sky the 3rd happened as a one-off accident and there won't be any more of those.

Looks like there will be a lot more of those.

What do you think about this new game?

Will they call it Trails of Cold Steel the 5th?

When do you think it will be released in English?

How many more side games do you think they will eventually make?

How do you feel about more side games akin to Trails in the Sky the 3rd?
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Stabbey Mar 18, 2019 @ 3:05pm 
How I feel about another game will depend largely on how I feel after seeing what happens in CS 3 and 4 - whether that's on PC, or in a Let's Play. I've already seen some discouraging warning signs in the writing of CS 2, and I hear that while 3 is an improvement in some ways, CS 4 takes a step back from CS 3 in a few areas.

If they need another game to tie together loose ends after FOUR hundred-hour games, that doesn't sound good, actually. It's a sign of unnecessary bloat.

Additionally, while I liked a lot of the content of Sky the Third, the otherworldly dungeons were my least favorite part.
Oguzhan Mar 18, 2019 @ 5:35pm 
As a person who adores sky 3rd I don't need a CS version of it considering gameplay in cs is a bit too easy to break.
Oguzhan Mar 18, 2019 @ 5:40pm 
Originally posted by Stabbey:
How I feel about another game will depend largely on how I feel after seeing what happens in CS 3 and 4 - whether that's on PC, or in a Let's Play. I've already seen some discouraging warning signs in the writing of CS 2, and I hear that while 3 is an improvement in some ways, CS 4 takes a step back from CS 3 in a few areas.

If they need another game to tie together loose ends after FOUR hundred-hour games, that doesn't sound good, actually. It's a sign of unnecessary bloat.

Additionally, while I liked a lot of the content of Sky the Third, the otherworldly dungeons were my least favorite part.

Sky FC and SC were able to tell their stories in 2 games and build up stuff for future games. Everything in sky 3rd is pretty much bonus or more build up for future games not counting Kevin's backstory. Sooooo yeah how did cs failed to tell everything it had to is beyond my compréhension. I guess this is what happens when they focus too much on rean schwarzer (the boring of the 3 mains). And some people say that focusing too much on rean is not a problem and CS is better than other arcs.

If this game is a thing I hope rean is not in it. Or at least the last character we get.
Last edited by Oguzhan; Mar 18, 2019 @ 5:42pm
Three possibilities I can see for the Cold Steel related project, in order of likelihood:

  1. It'll be an expansion for CS4, perhaps like Tokyo Xanadu EX+.
  2. It'll be a fullblown CS5 (what I'm personally hoping for but I doubt it).
  3. It'll be a side game set in the Erebonia, where we see the events of the arc from the perspective of a different character.
Oguzhan Mar 18, 2019 @ 6:08pm 
Originally posted by Val the Moofia Boss:
Three possibilities I can see for the Cold Steel related project, in order of likelihood:

  1. It'll be an expansion for CS4, perhaps like Tokyo Xanadu EX+.
  2. It'll be a fullblown CS5 (what I'm personally hoping for but I doubt it).
  3. It'll be a side game set in the Erebonia, where we see the events of the arc from the perspective of a different character.

option 3 and i would love it. give us mcburn adventures!!!!!
Last edited by Oguzhan; Mar 18, 2019 @ 6:09pm
Stabbey Mar 18, 2019 @ 6:16pm 
Originally posted by Oguzhan:
option 3 and i would love it. give us mcburn adventures!!!!!

Ugh, no, please. That guy is really awful. I can't say he's the worst character in the game in a series where Elise exists, but he's just Edgy McOverpowered.
Oguzhan Mar 18, 2019 @ 6:20pm 
Originally posted by Stabbey:
Originally posted by Oguzhan:
option 3 and i would love it. give us mcburn adventures!!!!!

Ugh, no, please. That guy is really awful. I can't say he's the worst character in the game in a series where Elise exists, but he's just Edgy McOverpowered.

Dude after mr nice guy rean, i want an ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ as a character. also yes elise is the worst character in the series.
Last edited by Oguzhan; Mar 18, 2019 @ 6:22pm
From reading that, I would be in the same mindset as stabbey, and it would suggest rather poor storytelling in my opinion if there were that many loose ends like that.

I'm glad they aren't going down the route of cCG cutscenes though. They add unnecessary bloat to a game's file size, rarely look that good, are often encoded at at different framerate, and also age exceptionally badly, in the worst case scenario, sometimes it's in a completely different style. The sooner Japanese developers move away from CG/anime and use in-game engine cutscenes the better. - I'm looking at you, Bandai Namco (Tales of...) and Atlus (Persona 5).

On the other hand, that article tells us pretty much nothing.

Originally posted by Val the Moofia Boss:
3. It'll be a side game set in the Erebonia, where we see the events of the arc from the perspective of a different character.

That would work I think, and would be the best thing in my opinion if they do go down that route, any of the other suggestions would suggest poor storytelling.
Originally posted by the.jester:
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Originally posted by Oguzhan:
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again, I agree with stabbey, no McBurn, unless there is a considerable amount of character development for him in CS3 and CS4 that makes him integral to the story and makes him a fully fleshed out character. Currently he just feels shoe-horned in. :-/
Last edited by 󠀡󠀡󠀡⁧⁧the.jester; Mar 18, 2019 @ 6:46pm
Oguzhan Mar 18, 2019 @ 6:55pm 
Originally posted by the.jester:
Originally posted by the.jester:
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again, I agree, no McBurn, unless there is a considerable amount of character development for him that makes him integral to the story and makes him a fully fleshed out character.
You can send him to a place like phantasma, take away his powers. Explore his past. It would be a nice mirror to kevin who uses the power of a stigma. Also I hear that McBurn does something in CS4. I wont tell what but seems interesting. Which makes me think he would be the ideal choice.
Last edited by Oguzhan; Mar 18, 2019 @ 6:56pm
inner product Mar 18, 2019 @ 6:59pm 
additional game where you get to play as Rex and be a war photographer imo

featuring highly tactical gameplay where you have to carefully take pictures of war zones without getting killed OR stealth segments where you take wholesome candid photos of girls

(I miss Pokemon Snap lol)

Oh, I guess there's also confirmation of Calvard. I know most people expected it, but I'm not sure if that's been explicitly confirmed before?
Last edited by inner product; Mar 18, 2019 @ 7:07pm
Originally posted by worms are pants:
additional game where you get to play as Rex and be a war photographer imo

featuring highly tactical gameplay where you have to carefully take pictures of war zones without getting killed OR stealth segments where you take wholesome candid photos of girls

(I miss Pokemon Snap lol)

Oh, I guess there's also confirmation of Calvard. I know most people expected it, but I'm not sure if that's been explicitly confirmed before?

We only know that the area the next entry is set in includes Calvard[gematsu.com], which makes me think that it will not be set in Calvard specifically but the area around it. There is a lot of speculation surrounding the lands to the East of Calvard, in which there is implied to be a crisis that is driving people away and flooding Calvard with refugees.
Dragon Mar 18, 2019 @ 8:38pm 
Originally posted by the.jester:

On the other hand, that article tells us pretty much nothing.

Sure it does.

It tells us:

1) Falcom is making a CS side game.

2) Falcom will also make more Trails side games in the future.
Oguzhan Mar 18, 2019 @ 8:43pm 
Originally posted by Val the Moofia Boss:
Originally posted by worms are pants:
additional game where you get to play as Rex and be a war photographer imo

featuring highly tactical gameplay where you have to carefully take pictures of war zones without getting killed OR stealth segments where you take wholesome candid photos of girls

(I miss Pokemon Snap lol)

Oh, I guess there's also confirmation of Calvard. I know most people expected it, but I'm not sure if that's been explicitly confirmed before?

We only know that the area the next entry is set in includes Calvard[gematsu.com], which makes me think that it will not be set in Calvard specifically but the area around it. There is a lot of speculation surrounding the lands to the East of Calvard, in which there is implied to be a crisis that is driving people away and flooding Calvard with refugees.

Yeah, Calvards main problem seem to be immigration. We will most definitely see characters like Kilika and Zin. We might also get a few nods to Zero no Kiseki for you know what since its a big part of Calvards past mistakes. I expect the mafia and a certain prince making a return. President Rocksmith will surely play a role since he is basically a shrewd version of Osborne (I love Osborne).

I hope the main cast is not just students or bracers this time. I mean so far trails have been very good with variety. First bracer duo, then police officers and finally students. And while I don't think Class 7 has reached its peak as a "class" (f you the focus on Rean) they do mention about a "class" in Ao no Kiseki. And lets face it, in todays age, ♥♥♥ games will have students as main characters cause japan has a heart on for highschool and harem settings. Hopefully we are part of the mafia or Kilika's group (if she has one).

My second hope is a no harem setting OR at the very least other romantic relationships in the group. Tokyo Xanadu did a very good job at this but who knows they might change their mind for that game's sequel. I want other characters to get more focus because that is the biggest fault of CS. I love the Class 7 cast but they don't get any attention (except Jusis, he gets a decent amount and Alisa has that heartwarming sidequest)

3rdly, better rewards for fishing please. Sky and Crossbell are far superior when it comes to fishing. If you know what you are doing you can get some insane stuff very early on. But if you want you can just randomly catch fish from time to time and fill out the list (thats how I did it my first run).

And finally, element points please. Far superior. More balanced too since you can't stack. During my last run of CS2 I one shot Vermillion, doing 314k dmg. I did not grind. I want master quartz though, those are great.


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I do want the being able to change characters during battle though. That was really good. S-Crafts need a bit of a nerf. Again I one shot vermillion. No boss in previous games can be one shot. That being said Sky 3rd is the king of this. S-Crafts are useful but you wanna use normal crafts cause in the long run they are more beneficial.SC was good at it too but during end game Agate got a bit out of hand. Only Agate though since characters like Zin and Josh were better with normal Crafts. Ao did a really nice thing with S-Crafts for its final boss which is why that one is my fav.

Also curious as to what the new art style will look like (character portraits). I love everything we have had so far. From FC's classic anime look to SC's updated look to Crossbell's handrawn style and finally CS's hd slick look.
Last edited by Oguzhan; Mar 18, 2019 @ 9:25pm
inner product Mar 18, 2019 @ 10:15pm 
Originally posted by Val the Moofia Boss:

We only know that the area the next entry is set in includes Calvard[gematsu.com], which makes me think that it will not be set in Calvard specifically but the area around it. There is a lot of speculation surrounding the lands to the East of Calvard, in which there is implied to be a crisis that is driving people away and flooding Calvard with refugees.

Oh, that's an interesting distinction. Thanks for pointing that out!

Maybe they'll teach us how to become as hard as Kurt.
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