After looking at breeding in this game its a no buy

[Age Of Survival Is Garbage]

How can anyone be ok with this system? I can breed a full pokemon team in a couple hours, Plus if ones shiny I can change any of its traits or stats exactly how I want as many times as I want. This system you have going on here is a massive mistake, was seconds away from buying this game because I enjoy competitive pokemon but I refuse to work with what this is offering. Its no wonder theres only 1,000 people playing this daily.

[Kratos263]

Temtem is an mmo, so breeding can't be compared to pokemon

[Wolfguarde]

Honestly, breeding was one of the detractor points that kept me away from the game for a long time as well. But at the end of the day, I'm not someone that's big on cosmetics, so it's just where my currency winds up going.

OP has a legitimate point, the capture loop in these sorts of games is rarely ever interesting or engaging play. It's usually something to look past, and in TT it's no exception. The only functional difference here is that Crema seems to want capture to play a persistent role throughout the game, where most developers don't really care either way.

If they can make it interesting - that is, capture itself, not the rewards, nor world goals/events; the process itself - then they'll have pulled off something no other capture/gacha game developer I know of has managed. But it's a long shot, especially with a turn-based game.

[Galroche]

Originally posted by Age Of Survival Is Garbage:

How can anyone be ok with this system? I can breed a full pokemon team in a couple hours, Plus if ones shiny I can change any of its traits or stats exactly how I want as many times as I want. This system you have going on here is a massive mistake, was seconds away from buying this game because I enjoy competitive pokemon but I refuse to work with what this is offering. Its no wonder theres only 1,000 people playing this daily.

99% of those kind of game players don't care about breeding and merely play the story, it's irrelevant to the player count.
with an unlimited breed count the market would be flooded by perfect IV luma tem after a week making breeding pointless since the cost would be higher than buying it already done (well it's already the case for most normal tem)

[Akuma :/]

people still play Pokemon o.O games been ♥♥♥♥ and boring since pearl

[MJ]

The entire point of Temtem isnt the breeding, you can play through the whole game without a single perfectly bred tem or even any that are TV trained, breeding is endgame for a reason, you don't need to do it to enjoy the game but its something to do once you have nothing else to do but want to keep playing.

[EthanT]

Originally posted by Age Of Survival Is Garbage:

...was seconds away from buying this game because I enjoy competitive pokemon...

Ah yes, competitive pokemon, where 90% of players are cheaters. So fun.

[Age Of Survival Is Garbage]

Originally posted by Eternal Herald:

Originally posted by Age Of Survival Is Garbage:

...was seconds away from buying this game because I enjoy competitive pokemon...

Ah yes, competitive pokemon, where 90% of players are cheaters. So fun.

Played for months and ran into 0 cheaters, the battle tower checks mons before they enter. No idea what youre talking about

[FanatSors]

How does competitive corelate to breeding? In-game matchmaking has auto scaling, you can get a full not perfect team for 100k pansun at worst (1-2 weeks of weeklies/dailies, not even the freetem)
And by the time you will get ready for player tournaments, you'll be able to just buy all tems needed from player market.

As for the breeding itself.. what's the problem there? You can casually make 40-45+ stats tems without too much efford at all.

For perfects, yes, you'd have to invest and calculate stuff, not to mention you can do more in-depth stuff to optimize your gains - but that's what makes tems at least somewhat valuable.

[Tam]

Breeding is pretty useless to be honest and you can not use it at all or just use it very lightly.

There are 3 Things that matter in a figth that can change on your temtem through breeding
SV
Ability
inherited attacks

SV: do not matter for competitive as your temtem gets all stats to 50 SV during pvp no matter what the actuall SV are. In Story mode (pve) it matters but as long as your SV are not all in the red you can beat anything. If you want a bit better SV to make it easier you can just catch 2 Temtem with somewhat good stats and then breed them a few times to get one that inherits most of the good stats

Ability: There is a breeding methode to inherit a specific ability but if SV and inherited attacks do not matter for you then just catch 3-4 temtem until you have one with the rigth ability. (it should be 50/50 which one you get)

Inherited Attacks: Literally the only thing that makes a difference in pvp that is gained through breeding. BUT.... they already did some changes in the past and took inherited attacks away... so personally I would not spend any money on that.

Everything else has either nothing to do with breeding or can be achieved easier outside of it,
TV: gaine dby slaying temtem or feeding fruit
Level: gain EXP
Luma: Compass, just search the grass,......

Breeding has absolutely no purpose and is a massive waste of time and money, so not getting the game because you don't want to breed does not make sense, after all the game does not want you to breed either.

[Lav]

Yeah the breeding in the game has to be a very bad attempt at originality. I get that they wanna distance the game as much as they want from pokemon but this system is not the way to do it.

The fact that it costs so much for no reason, the limited fertility forcing you to catch more parents, the fact that its useless to luma hunting because the odds are the same as encounter rates????

I don’t know they gotta fix it before the full build, but i have a feeling they won’t.

[Silver]

Originally posted by UnoLav:

Yeah the breeding in the game has to be a very bad attempt at originality. I get that they wanna distance the game as much as they want from pokemon but this system is not the way to do it.

The fact that it costs so much for no reason, the limited fertility forcing you to catch more parents, the fact that its useless to luma hunting because the odds are the same as encounter rates????

I don’t know they gotta fix it before the full build, but i have a feeling they won’t.

This is all just nonsense.

The way breeding was done has nothing to do with distancing itself from Pokemon. If you play regularly you'll quickly have enough money to breed in the current state, and the game isn't even finished yet.

Fertility is limited because this is an MMO and you can guarantee stats. If it wasn't limited we'd be able to spit out infinite perfects and literally render breeding useless within a few weeks.

Breeding lumas increases odds by 10X for each luma parent. 10X with 1, 100X with 2. So breeding lumas isn't useless for getting lumas at all.

Nothing you said is true.

[Lav]

Originally posted by Silver:

Originally posted by UnoLav:

Yeah the breeding in the game has to be a very bad attempt at originality. I get that they wanna distance the game as much as they want from pokemon but this system is not the way to do it.

The fact that it costs so much for no reason, the limited fertility forcing you to catch more parents, the fact that its useless to luma hunting because the odds are the same as encounter rates????

I don’t know they gotta fix it before the full build, but i have a feeling they won’t.

This is all just nonsense.

The way breeding was done has nothing to do with distancing itself from Pokemon. If you play regularly you'll quickly have enough money to breed in the current state, and the game isn't even finished yet.

Fertility is limited because this is an MMO and you can guarantee stats. If it wasn't limited we'd be able to spit out infinite perfects and literally render breeding useless within a few weeks.

Breeding lumas increases odds by 10X for each luma parent. 10X with 1, 100X with 2. So breeding lumas isn't useless for getting lumas at all.

Nothing you said is true.

So you’re saying the breeding being tedious has nothing to do with the game wanting to distance from pokemon, right.

Breeding lumas with other lumas, yay I can get more luma copies of the same tem i already have...

[Silver]

Originally posted by UnoLav:

So you’re saying the breeding being tedious has nothing to do with the game wanting to distance from pokemon, right.

Breeding lumas with other lumas, yay I can get more luma copies of the same tem i already have...

I literally just explained to you why some of the mechanics are there.

As for breeding lumas, the species of the offspring is the same species as the mother so breeding with a single male luma can give you a luma of a different species. That's how people got luma Anahir, for example, or how people breed luma Houchic and Smazee since they're currently not yet obtainable in the wild.

[Toastpiratewilly]

Originally posted by apoxgow:

Originally posted by MJ:

The entire point of Temtem isnt the breeding, you can play through the whole game without a single perfectly bred tem or even any that are TV trained, breeding is endgame for a reason, you don't need to do it to enjoy the game but its something to do once you have nothing else to do but want to keep playing.

I think you failed to see his point, especially when he mentions "because I enjoy competitive pokemon". Meaning he doesn't care about the casual nature of the game.

Good news then, Ranked automatically scales all entered temtem's SV's up to max so you don't need to take time to breed perfects to build a team if you don't want to.

[Toastpiratewilly]

Originally posted by UnoLav:

Originally posted by Silver:

This is all just nonsense.

The way breeding was done has nothing to do with distancing itself from Pokemon. If you play regularly you'll quickly have enough money to breed in the current state, and the game isn't even finished yet.

Fertility is limited because this is an MMO and you can guarantee stats. If it wasn't limited we'd be able to spit out infinite perfects and literally render breeding useless within a few weeks.

Breeding lumas increases odds by 10X for each luma parent. 10X with 1, 100X with 2. So breeding lumas isn't useless for getting lumas at all.

Nothing you said is true.

So you’re saying the breeding being tedious has nothing to do with the game wanting to distance from pokemon, right.

Breeding lumas with other lumas, yay I can get more luma copies of the same tem i already have...

You also failed to read that this is an MMO, and player economy is a big part of it. People buy and sell luma eggs all the time, you don't need to hatch it for yourself.

Even if you don't want to trade the eggs away, breeding helps greatly with possibly getting a much better 'copy' of that tem. For example I had a luma toxolotl with a terrible speed stat. So i used it to breed and ended up hatching one with much better stats than it's original parent.