Saipark is a disaster, let me explain 'Why?'

[DE3me]

There are two main reasons why Saipark is not good on multiple levels:

1. Crema put themselves into a corner with the concept. You can either farm for Lumas (and only need a few cards, because nobody will find 15 Lumas to catch in a week) or farm for high stats (needs a lot of volume, a lot of cards). Because both cases are opposite they can't really do mixes and the whole entry fee is rarely worth it.

2. For whatever reason they decided that the half-baked Saipark idea (which sounds nice in concept, but doesn't really work in reality as described above) was of such high priority that it was the first major patch after release instead of something like a battle tower (endless battles with option to make some cash, to give additional options to just catch and release) or some other repeatable endgame idea, which is a huge mistake.

Saipark could be a nice concept to experiment with after the games release or to the end of development, but they brought this idea in at the first major content update.

I want to stress that this is more meant as a pointer for mistakes made for Crema so they could be avoided in the future and for discussion, not to make a game that I like appear bad.

[Alyx]

Lena eredeti hozzászólása:

GrandTickler eredeti hozzászólása:

good job twisting my post around and making it purely about the mmo part, not the point i tried to make.

dont bother with alyx. hes a known fanboy with questionable reputation who trashtalks everyone who even dares to criticise temtem in the slightest. just report and move on. he rarely adds something valuable to a discussion and uses EA as an excuse for literally everything.

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anywho, i think right now crema is still experimenting with prices and rates etc. it does feel quite lacklustering after all though especially when you look at their roadmap. at this point all you can do is hoping they dont ♥♥♥♥ up.

Would'nt have to trashtalk anyone if most had the ability to read that EA warning at the start of the game :P

You'll also easily say the exact same issue with this person here where instead of reading the posts first to see there was no twisting of words involved, but yes...thus has been the issue with temtem from the start is players inability to read...even on the forums it seems.

You'll also find reporting someone only works when something actually offensive has been said about or towards someone..y'know much like pinpointing another person with an insultive posts...*gasp* Much like this one I am replying too but of course, this golden rule would only be known by someone who actually read the TOS. well done~

[Jayscee]

Lena eredeti hozzászólása:

dont bother with alyx. hes a known fanboy.

'Ad hominem' does 0 favor for your argument, friend. If anything it only shows that you have no ground to stand on, having to resort to cheap sophistry instead of targeting the actual point the guy is making.
Can't say I expected more, but you still somehow managed to dissapoint.

[Lena]

Jayscee eredeti hozzászólása:

Lena eredeti hozzászólása:

dont bother with alyx. hes a known fanboy.

'Ad hominem' does 0 favor for your argument, friend. If anything it only shows that you have no ground to stand on, having to resort to cheap sophistry instead of targeting the actual point the guy is making.
Can't say I expected more, but you still somehow managed to dissapoint.

sorry, facts dont care about your feelings. in your case pot calling a kettle black, kinda ironic.

maybe dont get so offended over a word next time and add something valuable to the discussion.

[KOS-MOS]

Lena eredeti hozzászólása:

Jayscee eredeti hozzászólása:

'Ad hominem' does 0 favor for your argument, friend. If anything it only shows that you have no ground to stand on, having to resort to cheap sophistry instead of targeting the actual point the guy is making.
Can't say I expected more, but you still somehow managed to dissapoint.

sorry, facts dont care about your feelings. in your case pot calling a kettle black, kinda ironic.

maybe dont get so offended over a word next time and add something valuable to the discussion.

You know you can block someone if you don't like him. This way his posts wont hurt your feelings anymore. c_ c

[Lena]

Les Jacques facial eredeti hozzászólása:

Lena eredeti hozzászólása:

sorry, facts dont care about your feelings. in your case pot calling a kettle black, kinda ironic.

maybe dont get so offended over a word next time and add something valuable to the discussion.

You know you can block someone if you don't like him. This way his posts wont hurt your feelings anymore. c_ c

i can assure you, my feelings arent hurt in any way. why would i block people? i can handle some bad words opposed to other people.

[KOS-MOS]

Lena eredeti hozzászólása:

Les Jacques facial eredeti hozzászólása:

You know you can block someone if you don't like him. This way his posts wont hurt your feelings anymore. c_ c

i can assure you, my feelings arent hurt in any way. why would i block people? i can handle some bad words oposed to other people.

Hm... because you started a sterile discussion for no reason ? :/

He has the right to reply and give his opinion. He didn't insult or anything... You can desagree but why calling him out like this ? You knew it would turn baddly.

[Vyrtualis]

Lena eredeti hozzászólása:

Les Jacques facial eredeti hozzászólása:

You know you can block someone if you don't like him. This way his posts wont hurt your feelings anymore. c_ c

i can assure you, my feelings arent hurt in any way. why would i block people? i can handle some bad words opposed to other people.

Personal attacks are not allowed in this forum.

[Alyx]

Lena eredeti hozzászólása:

Jayscee eredeti hozzászólása:

'Ad hominem' does 0 favor for your argument, friend. If anything it only shows that you have no ground to stand on, having to resort to cheap sophistry instead of targeting the actual point the guy is making.
Can't say I expected more, but you still somehow managed to dissapoint.

sorry, facts dont care about your feelings. in your case pot calling a kettle black, kinda ironic.

maybe dont get so offended over a word next time and add something valuable to the discussion.

Imagine trying to defend yourself by telling someone else to post something valuable when your first post here was literally a pinpointed personal attack which is not allowed on the steam forums by any means... lol and cringe worthy.

[Lena]

Les Jacques facial eredeti hozzászólása:

Lena eredeti hozzászólása:

i can assure you, my feelings arent hurt in any way. why would i block people? i can handle some bad words oposed to other people.

Hm... because you started a sterile discussion for no reason ? :/

He has the right to reply and give his opinion. He didn't insult or anything... You can desagree but why calling him out like this ? You knew it would turn baddly.

he has the right to give his opinion and so have i, so your point is?

well i call it like i see it, i dont see anything wrong with it. i mean i got at least two people who had nothing to do with this discussion offended for him so you are feeding into this as well. no idea what you want from me to be honest. if someone got the "right" to complain or get upset about it then alyx and not two random people who decided to inject themselves into this.

VirtualSilicon eredeti hozzászólása:

Lena eredeti hozzászólása:

i can assure you, my feelings arent hurt in any way. why would i block people? i can handle some bad words opposed to other people.

Personal attacks are not allowed in this forum.

personal attack? get a grip.

[Alyx]

VirtualSilicon eredeti hozzászólása:

Personal attacks are not allowed in this forum.

personal attack? get a grip. [/quote]

A pinpointed direct post towards a person directly in any form of hateful or insultive manner is known as a personal attack, especially when it does not even have a thing to do with the thread itself so enjoy the reports you've likely earned~

Too bad that reading the forums TOS to know basic rules is too hard now apperantly as well.

[Lena]

Alyx eredeti hozzászólása:

Lena eredeti hozzászólása:

sorry, facts dont care about your feelings. in your case pot calling a kettle black, kinda ironic.

maybe dont get so offended over a word next time and add something valuable to the discussion.

Imagine trying to defend yourself by telling someone else to post something valuable when your first post here was literally a pinpointed personal attack which is not allowed on the steam forums by any means... lol and cringe worthy.

never personally attacked anyone. calling someone a fanboy isnt an attack.

do you know whats also against the rules? derailing and flaming in threads which you have done many, many times by attacking other people because you disagree with them. go figure.

dont need to defend myself cause i did nothing wrong but imagine reading only half my comment and then cherry pick the one that suits your narrative and ignore the rest. hillarious.

[Alyx]

Lena eredeti hozzászólása:

Alyx eredeti hozzászólása:

Imagine trying to defend yourself by telling someone else to post something valuable when your first post here was literally a pinpointed personal attack which is not allowed on the steam forums by any means... lol and cringe worthy.

never personally attacked anyone. calling someone a fanboy isnt an attack.

do you know whats also against the rules? derailing and flaming in threads which you have done many, many times by attacking other people because you disagree with them. go figure.

dont need to defend myself cause i did nothing wrong but imagine reading only half my comment and then cherry pick the one that suits your narrative and ignore the rest. hillarious.

Yep, keep defending yourself when you did the bad thing~ The proof is in this very same thread~

[Lena]

Alyx eredeti hozzászólása:

VirtualSilicon eredeti hozzászólása:

Personal attacks are not allowed in this forum.

personal attack? get a grip.

A pinpointed direct post towards a person directly in any form of hateful or insultive manner is known as a personal attack, especially when it does not even have a thing to do with the thread itself so enjoy the reports you've likely earned~

Too bad that reading the forums TOS to know basic rules is too hard now apperantly as well. [/quote]

well, maybe take your own advice first and read up on them then.

anyways, as usual you only want to bait people into continue pointless arguments so im done. i said what i had to say.

[Alyx]

Lena eredeti hozzászólása:

Alyx eredeti hozzászólása:

personal attack? get a grip.

A pinpointed direct post towards a person directly in any form of hateful or insultive manner is known as a personal attack, especially when it does not even have a thing to do with the thread itself so enjoy the reports you've likely earned~

Too bad that reading the forums TOS to know basic rules is too hard now apperantly as well.

well, maybe take your own advice first and read up on them then.

anyways, as usual you only want to bait people into continue pointless arguments so im done. i said what i had to say. [/quote]

I don't name people directly and derail threads entirely just to flame that particular person in anyway that is actually harmful or hateful..You did the naughty thing so expect what comes next in due time.

Your best option is to stop replying and stop making your own situation worse~

[RobbEJay]

Les Jacques facial eredeti hozzászólása:

Maybe the chat is still buggy and they need to work longer on it ?

I don't know but it's possible they release what is done and stable first ?

Just my little thought as I'm not in Crema team.

I agree I'm a little ... confused about the Saipark.

2k~3k pansun to buy several cards, in order to catch a certain tem, possibly a luma one.
But... I didn't encounter any luma and I've been forced to catch gankis and even paharac in the park just to not waste these cards.... So... very basic tems.... It's a little too expensive for what I got.

I wouldn't mind to pay a high price if the luma rate was a lot more better. I don't mean finding luma each fight. But at least, better than what we have now.
It could be 50-100k pansun to buy Saicards. But in this park, we have 1/1000 chances to find lumas.

OR. More we kill a tem, greater are the chances to find a luma of this same tem.

For now, the price is... average.... Not expensive but not cheap neither. And the reward is.... meh.

Yeah, that's what I thought too, but then you would think fixing a chat would be easier than making an entire new area. Unless perhaps the issue wasn't the chat itself but getting all the social and communication features working together. Seems reasonable to me, but who knows, they don't talk about this stuff much. If they let anything slip its usually relegated to discord.

On the saipark, the only thing I can see is they're trying to use weekly specials as a means to control people's ability to farm special tems. That would make sense if by there being "too many" luma they were referring to the rate of capture, not the total amount. Hopefully its just a balance issue, or the 2-3k for cards is meant to feel like chump change later.

I feel like they may be trying to reinvent the wheel when it's not needed though, why not just make the park itself expensive and give players a big stack of cards to start with?