Temtem
Anzuni Feb 4, 2020 @ 2:10pm
game is losing players
but the game has been in the top 5 of the top seller list since release. Do you think its because people are just waiting for more content or have the devs done something to piss people off?
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Jagore Feb 4, 2020 @ 3:50pm 
Game has like 30 hours of content before you hit a wall of trying to breed temtem by doing massive grinds. It would be weird if it didn't see a drop in players. The game stablized a lot after launch day and it just has a few expected EA bugs that the devs have been consistently patching.

Nothing Crema has done would set off some massive pissed off gamer exodus, and I certainly haven't seen anything crop up. This is just normal drop in player base after current content completion. Theres no real end game to keep people playing yet.
Trep Feb 4, 2020 @ 3:51pm 
waiting for end game (if there is) ofc after we finish the full story.. but we need long full of content and things to do in the end, im talking about warframe content, non ending one.

if not this game will die like all the others.
incendia Feb 4, 2020 @ 3:58pm 
Originally posted by DUCK:
The farming or rather grinding is rather dull and boring.
So when the game could find a good MMO loop to carry time in the game, until then it might drop after every or so for the content update.

While the current system does support a potential battle tower or something equivelant it doesn't seem like any sort of group would be "possible" in the current system. I say possible in quotes because it's certainly possible to have 5 temtem out on the field but it really doesn't seem like it would result in any sort of engaging or deep group combat system. Cooperative content seems more feasible but unless its mandetory you might as well go solo for all intents and purposes.

So what is an optimal type of loop for a game like this? would it be entirely single player driven?
jfoytek Feb 4, 2020 @ 4:00pm 
Originally posted by Tsurayu:
Originally posted by Anzuni:
but the game has been in the top 5 of the top seller list since release. Do you think its because people are just waiting for more content or have the devs done something to ♥♥♥♥ people off?

Uh... your point?

Inevitably this happens to all popular games at some point in time.

There were people who bought the game and decided it's just a "lul Pokemon ripoff" and quit, there are those who have gone through the campaign and have quit playing until there is new content released, and there are those who are taking their time and not playing the game consistently so they don't run out of things to do.

There's not some mass conspiracy or anything.

More like whats your point so you seem to be missing the basic IMPORTANT concept here...

This is NOT a single player RPG

This is suppose to be a MMORPG. A never ending sandbox of tons of people. So if Skyrim losses tons of people after its first week is NO BIG DEAL

But if World of Warcraft lost tons of people after its first week it would be A HUGE DEAL...

Because there two very different genre's of games and MMORPG'S are people dependant....

With that being said why is this MMORPG shedding players like a hot potato!!!

Well that's a very easy thing to answer! It has NO MMORPG content at the moment!

Nothing resets the trainers, there is no way to replay the story without reseting your character, there is no viable way to continuously earn money once to play thru the story the tamers don't reset. There is No Chat to facilitate the economy, there is no Player Vendors to facilitate the economy, there is no Auction House to facilitate the economy!

This game should have Many chat channels.
1 for your guild
1 for your global
1 for Trading TemTem

This game should reset its Tamers every 7-14 days
This game should reset the story every 7-14 days
This game should reset the Loot box's on the ground every 7-14 days

This game should be a grind <---- More so then it is now!
This game should be harder to get Shiny's <---- More so then it is now!

There should be a PvP tournament with Ranking Board

There should be a PvE Ranking board to show who has the most Shiny's

There should be a PvE Ranking board to see who has Bred the Most Temtem.

There should be a way to link the stats of your Temtem in chat so you can show off your Perfect (Insert Temtem Type)

There should be Special Super Boss's in the world not tied to the story line you fight to get a cool gear reward and they too should reset every 7-14 days!

And this is just the tip of the iceberg; all these things can already be found in Pokemon Revolution Online a Free to Play MMORPG. That is light years ahead of TemTem at the moment (Yes its early access) and we hopefully will see these things implemented.
Last edited by jfoytek; Feb 4, 2020 @ 4:06pm
incendia Feb 4, 2020 @ 4:04pm 
Originally posted by jfoytek:
This game should be a grind <---- More so then it is now!

Should that ever be a design goal for any game regardless of it's genre?
Sure you'd want to have long term content but that should ideally be content that's fun and engaging in it's own right and not tedium to pad things out for the sake of player retention rates.
Deagle Trainee Feb 4, 2020 @ 4:05pm 
Originally posted by NikemanBOOM:
I'll tell ya what the breeding/FreeTem! grind would be a HELL of a lot more bearable if they'd revert the price changes on the DNA Strands. I'm sure that grind is a turn-off for many players, so once they reached the end they kinda just... left.

If the prices were lower, people would have top tier Temtem long before the next update. That doesn't make for a very fun game overall, if the elite are well established because of easy breeding.
Naijiro Feb 4, 2020 @ 4:06pm 
Originally posted by Tsurayu:
Originally posted by Anzuni:
but the game has been in the top 5 of the top seller list since release. Do you think its because people are just waiting for more content or have the devs done something to ♥♥♥♥ people off?

Uh... your point?

Inevitably this happens to all popular games at some point in time.

There were people who bought the game and decided it's just a "lul Pokemon ripoff" and quit, there are those who have gone through the campaign and have quit playing until there is new content released, and there are those who are taking their time and not playing the game consistently so they don't run out of things to do.

There's not some mass conspiracy or anything.

People, gamers in particular have this strange habit of pointing out the obvious before it happens, so when the obvious eventually happens they can can say "I told you so".
jfoytek Feb 4, 2020 @ 4:09pm 
Originally posted by incendia:
Originally posted by jfoytek:
This game should be a grind <---- More so then it is now!

Should that ever be a design goal for any game regardless of it's genre?
Sure you'd want to have long term content but that should ideally be content that's fun and engaging in it's own right and not tedium to pad things out for the sake of player retention rates.

Grind is fun its the entire point of Temtem / Pokemon

Why do you run around for hours on end? To collect them all! If you could do that in 8 hours to find a single rare TemTem it would lack any reward, but if it took you 800 hours then you could proudly Link it in Chat and show off you got a (Insert Rare TemTem)

What other Point is there to a TemTem MMORPG??? That is the largest PvE goal to collect them all and that should ALWAYS be a Grind of Giant proportions!!! Or the game will lose its appeal FAST....
Last edited by jfoytek; Feb 4, 2020 @ 4:10pm
kimaru Feb 4, 2020 @ 4:12pm 
Originally posted by jfoytek:
Originally posted by Tsurayu:

Uh... your point?

Inevitably this happens to all popular games at some point in time.

There were people who bought the game and decided it's just a "lul Pokemon ripoff" and quit, there are those who have gone through the campaign and have quit playing until there is new content released, and there are those who are taking their time and not playing the game consistently so they don't run out of things to do.

There's not some mass conspiracy or anything.

More like whats your point so you seem to be missing the basic IMPORTANT concept here...

This is NOT a single player RPG

This is suppose to be a MMORPG. A never ending sandbox of tons of people. So if Skyrim losses tons of people after its first week is NO BIG DEAL

But if World of Warcraft lost tons of people after its first week it would be A HUGE DEAL...

Because there two very different genre's of games and MMORPG'S are people dependant....

With that being said why is this MMORPG shedding players like a hot potato!!!

Well that's a very easy thing to answer! I have NO MMORPG content at the moment!

Nothing resets the trainers, there is no way to replay the story without reseting your character, there is no viable way to continuously earn money once to play thru the story the tamers don't reset. There is No Chat to facilitate and economy, there is no Player Vendors to facilitate and economy, there is no Auction House to facilitate and economy!

This game should have Many chat channels.
1 for your guild
1 for your global
1 for Trading TemTem

This game should reset its Tamers every 7-14 days
This game should reset the story every 7-14 days
This game should reset the Loot box's on the ground every 7-14 days

This game should be a grind <---- More so then it is now!
This game should be harder to get Shiny's <---- More so then it is now!

There should be a PvP tournament with Ranking Board

There should be a PvE Ranking board to show who has the most Shiny's

There should be a PvE Ranking board to see who has Bred the Most Temtem.

There should be a way to link the stats of your Temtem in chat so you can show off your Perfect (Insert Temtem Type)

There should be Special Super Boss's in the world not tied to the story line you fight to get a cool gear reward and they too should reset every 7-14 days!

And this is just the tip of the iceberg all things you can already find in Pokemon Revolution Online a Free to Play MMORPG. This is light years ahead of TemTem at the moment (Yes its early access) and we hopefully will see these things implemented.

Are you sure that you want pokemon like mmo game ? Sounds like you want World of Warcraft or The Elder Scrolls Online.
PS: And we already have the way to constantly make money
SylveonLover Feb 4, 2020 @ 4:13pm 
It´s like No Man Sky, the player count it´s more or less stable and with every expansion it rockets to the top. It´s a little short on content now. It will rise again. At least the game is stable now. First priority!
이지금 Feb 4, 2020 @ 4:14pm 
Originally posted by kimaru:
Originally posted by jfoytek:

More like whats your point so you seem to be missing the basic IMPORTANT concept here...

This is NOT a single player RPG

This is suppose to be a MMORPG. A never ending sandbox of tons of people. So if Skyrim losses tons of people after its first week is NO BIG DEAL

But if World of Warcraft lost tons of people after its first week it would be A HUGE DEAL...

Because there two very different genre's of games and MMORPG'S are people dependant....

With that being said why is this MMORPG shedding players like a hot potato!!!

Well that's a very easy thing to answer! I have NO MMORPG content at the moment!

Nothing resets the trainers, there is no way to replay the story without reseting your character, there is no viable way to continuously earn money once to play thru the story the tamers don't reset. There is No Chat to facilitate and economy, there is no Player Vendors to facilitate and economy, there is no Auction House to facilitate and economy!

This game should have Many chat channels.
1 for your guild
1 for your global
1 for Trading TemTem

This game should reset its Tamers every 7-14 days
This game should reset the story every 7-14 days
This game should reset the Loot box's on the ground every 7-14 days

This game should be a grind <---- More so then it is now!
This game should be harder to get Shiny's <---- More so then it is now!

There should be a PvP tournament with Ranking Board

There should be a PvE Ranking board to show who has the most Shiny's

There should be a PvE Ranking board to see who has Bred the Most Temtem.

There should be a way to link the stats of your Temtem in chat so you can show off your Perfect (Insert Temtem Type)

There should be Special Super Boss's in the world not tied to the story line you fight to get a cool gear reward and they too should reset every 7-14 days!

And this is just the tip of the iceberg all things you can already find in Pokemon Revolution Online a Free to Play MMORPG. This is light years ahead of TemTem at the moment (Yes its early access) and we hopefully will see these things implemented.

Are you sure that you want pokemon like mmo game ? Sounds like you want World of Warcraft or The Elder Scrolls Online.
PS: And we already have the way to constantly make money

what he want is Pokemon MMORPG not temtem. thats it
jfoytek Feb 4, 2020 @ 4:15pm 
Originally posted by kimaru:
Originally posted by jfoytek:

More like whats your point so you seem to be missing the basic IMPORTANT concept here...

This is NOT a single player RPG

This is suppose to be a MMORPG. A never ending sandbox of tons of people. So if Skyrim losses tons of people after its first week is NO BIG DEAL

But if World of Warcraft lost tons of people after its first week it would be A HUGE DEAL...

Because there two very different genre's of games and MMORPG'S are people dependant....

With that being said why is this MMORPG shedding players like a hot potato!!!

Well that's a very easy thing to answer! I have NO MMORPG content at the moment!

Nothing resets the trainers, there is no way to replay the story without reseting your character, there is no viable way to continuously earn money once to play thru the story the tamers don't reset. There is No Chat to facilitate and economy, there is no Player Vendors to facilitate and economy, there is no Auction House to facilitate and economy!

This game should have Many chat channels.
1 for your guild
1 for your global
1 for Trading TemTem

This game should reset its Tamers every 7-14 days
This game should reset the story every 7-14 days
This game should reset the Loot box's on the ground every 7-14 days

This game should be a grind <---- More so then it is now!
This game should be harder to get Shiny's <---- More so then it is now!

There should be a PvP tournament with Ranking Board

There should be a PvE Ranking board to show who has the most Shiny's

There should be a PvE Ranking board to see who has Bred the Most Temtem.

There should be a way to link the stats of your Temtem in chat so you can show off your Perfect (Insert Temtem Type)

There should be Special Super Boss's in the world not tied to the story line you fight to get a cool gear reward and they too should reset every 7-14 days!

And this is just the tip of the iceberg all things you can already find in Pokemon Revolution Online a Free to Play MMORPG. This is light years ahead of TemTem at the moment (Yes its early access) and we hopefully will see these things implemented.

Are you sure that you want pokemon like mmo game ? Sounds like you want World of Warcraft or The Elder Scrolls Online.
PS: And we already have the way to constantly make money

Again this Pokemon MMORPG already exists (Pokemon Revolution Online) <--- Free to Play
Has all of these features! And Real Pokemon not Fakes....

If Temtem is going to succeed it needs to atleast do as good as the current free to play option in the market??? Is that so hard to understand??? Why should I play a Feature Missing 35 dollar game when I can play the real thing for free???
jfoytek Feb 4, 2020 @ 4:17pm 
Originally posted by 이지금:
Originally posted by kimaru:

Are you sure that you want pokemon like mmo game ? Sounds like you want World of Warcraft or The Elder Scrolls Online.
PS: And we already have the way to constantly make money

what he want is Pokemon MMORPG not temtem. thats it
OMG is doesn't matter if its Pokemon or Nexomon or Temtem what its called is irrelavent!

However if its billing itself as an MMORPG then it needs to actually be one and actually have said content....
Stormy Dawn Feb 4, 2020 @ 4:29pm 
Originally posted by jfoytek:
More like whats your point so you seem to be missing the basic IMPORTANT concept here...

Could very easily say the same to you.

You are "missing the basic IMPORTANT concept here..." this game is in Early Access.

Your whole post is basically "I want it! I want it all now!" like a screaming toddler.

What exactly do you think the developers are doing? Sitting with their thumbs up their butts? We're talking about a team with barely over a dozen employees trying quite an ambitious project. Maybe too ambitious, but I'm not going to argue that point right now. Cut them some freakin' slack. It takes time to release all of this content.

The game isn't somehow going to magically die overnight before the developers have a chance to implement all of the designs and features they want.

Most players are taking a break because they have done what they wanted to do, or are even just slowing down so they do avoid burning themselves out before there is new content.

You are entirely over-exaggerating. There are still tens of thousands of players playing this game every day on Steam alone, nevertheless through Discord and Humble Bundle. All of that while the game is still in relative infancy, and with more content on the way.
Last edited by Stormy Dawn; Feb 4, 2020 @ 4:30pm
caliyope_merph Feb 4, 2020 @ 4:33pm 
I'm still playing and i'm still wayyy at the beginning and also doing side quest along the way, so I think its just people waiting for more content. Its early access so you have to remember that :) I know there are still a few people grinding Tem here and there so when and update is added their Tem will likely be the strongest. Just cause something slows down doesn't mean its hated and people quit. ^w^ Enjoy all the hours you can!
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