Temtem
Brolando Jan 28, 2020 @ 11:03am
Is Anahir actually any good?
I mean both of traits are negative, I guess he has high def and spdef stats but is that really worth the tradeoff?
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Stormy Dawn Jan 28, 2020 @ 11:07am 
I'm gonna guess it's probably not going to be super useful in competitive.

But if any other Temtem are to be considered, I'm going to guess that if Anahir eventually has an evolution or two his/her trait is probably going to be pretty good. It seems like Temtem that tend to have some what sub-par Traits either have them to offset their otherwise amazing stats and movepool, or end up evolving into a Temtem that ends up with amazing traits.
Brolando Jan 29, 2020 @ 12:00pm 
Originally posted by Tsurayu:
I'm gonna guess it's probably not going to be super useful in competitive.

But if any other Temtem are to be considered, I'm going to guess that if Anahir eventually has an evolution or two his/her trait is probably going to be pretty good. It seems like Temtem that tend to have some what sub-par Traits either have them to offset their otherwise amazing stats and movepool, or end up evolving into a Temtem that ends up with amazing traits.
Yeah that makes a lot of sense, the game isn't finished yet so maybe it will get an evolution.

I was just sad because Anahir looks so cool.
Efreet Jan 29, 2020 @ 12:06pm 
Well currently it has an unique typing combination so there's that as well.
Korinth Jan 29, 2020 @ 12:06pm 
On Temtemstrat Anahir is a A-tier for now
https://temtemstrat.com/tier-strategique/
Last edited by Korinth; Jan 29, 2020 @ 12:07pm
Kyutaru Jan 29, 2020 @ 12:09pm 
Anahir is amazing. They use traits to balance strong temtem. The fact that he has a negative trait tells you he is very powerful in competitive play.
Stormy Dawn Jan 29, 2020 @ 12:16pm 
Originally posted by Hahli:
On Temtemstrat Anahir is a A-tier for now
https://temtemstrat.com/tier-strategique/

I question the legitimacy of the two tier ranking lists I've seen now, and the fact that they are fairly dissimilar shows that there isn't enough information to even agree upon.

It's way too early to be creating tier lists. There aren't enough players that have fought against each other, nevertheless in a competitive fashion. There is simply not enough data to go beyond pure conjecture and personal opinion.

It's all theorycrafting. Number crunching can only get you so far when you need practical data, too.

I will at least credit that particular listing for admitting that the meta is in it's infancy and that it's subject to change. I'd have to go digging through my history to find the other tier list I saw, but it almost acted like "this is the end all be all list" which just immediately made me close it out and go "Yeah, sure. I'm sure you know everything."
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Korinth Jan 29, 2020 @ 12:17pm 
Well yeah, the meta can't be stable before all the temtems are here and some good competition is done with them and not just casual match
Efreet Jan 29, 2020 @ 12:31pm 
Originally posted by TheShadowHatter:
Originally posted by Hahli:
On Temtemstrat Anahir is a A-tier for now
https://temtemstrat.com/tier-strategique/

How is Nessla the lowest tier when it has an ability that literally heals it when you pair it with the electric Row B Tem that can do chain lightning? Questionable tier list here.

Nessla is mostly noob bait, low speed, frail while weak with the most common types.
Zantetsuken Jan 29, 2020 @ 12:36pm 
Originally posted by Tsurayu:
It's all theorycrafting. Number crunching can only get you so far when you need practical data, too.
It's not theorycrafting since the lists were made in alpha. There have been numerous tournaments and the competitive scene was fleshed out over the course of a year. The difference in lists is the difference between actual experience and theorycrafting. Trust the list with Anahir being good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mA9ZC03RdEs

Here's a sample of the tournaments held. Lots of crunching was done around tems and getting maxed ones was easy because of how generous the devs were with free stuff.

The competitive channel of Discord is also a good place to ask for information. Look for players with the Alpha Hero tag. They played the game for months.
Last edited by Zantetsuken; Jan 29, 2020 @ 12:40pm
Stormy Dawn Jan 29, 2020 @ 12:40pm 
Originally posted by Zantetsuken:
Originally posted by Tsurayu:
It's all theorycrafting. Number crunching can only get you so far when you need practical data, too.
It's not theorycrafting since the lists were made in alpha. There have been numerous tournaments and the competitive scene was fleshed out over the course of a year. The difference in lists is the difference between actual experience and theorycrafting.

Maybe, but do we even know to which of those camps this particular lists belongs to?

Besides, how many actually participated in the tournaments? It's probably a pool that is too small to really get enough data to come up with tier lists, but that is admittedly opinion since there is no definite answer to that.

I'll probably continue to more or less ignore tier lists until we see competitive battles enabled in Early Access so we have a better pool of players to get data from. Though I suppose one can argue those who did participate in the tournaments were more vested than the general Early Access player base is ever going to be. *shrugs*
Last edited by Stormy Dawn; Jan 29, 2020 @ 12:42pm
Daniel Whitman Jan 29, 2020 @ 12:52pm 
also its quiet easy to breed him with 7x 50 stats since you farm a ton of fire temtems with the current best money making method
Korinth Jan 29, 2020 @ 12:57pm 
In any case Anahir isn't a ♥♥♥♥♥♥ Temtem xD
It get those traits to nerf him a little and not make it a OP legendary
Kinja Jan 29, 2020 @ 2:24pm 
I don't get it, why is Pigepic S tier? Am i missing something?
Kyutaru Jan 29, 2020 @ 2:26pm 
Originally posted by Kinja:
I don't get it, why is Pigepic S tier? Am i missing something?
Bamboozle and Fainted Curse are amazeballs.
Kinja Jan 29, 2020 @ 2:28pm 
Originally posted by Kyutaru:
Originally posted by Kinja:
I don't get it, why is Pigepic S tier? Am i missing something?
Bamboozle and Fainted Curse are amazeballs.

Ah makes sense i guess, i just find Fainted Curse to be such a ♥♥♥♥♥ move that i'd never use it. Bamboozle is good tho i'll give it that.
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