Mega Man X Legacy Collection 2

Mega Man X Legacy Collection 2

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Story Doubt for consistency...
Okay,Capcom, Clarify this once and for all... was it 3 years or 3 weeks between x5 or X6?!
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1450437775
Last edited by Kira Von Black; Jul 24, 2018 @ 7:52pm
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Red Jul 24, 2018 @ 8:25pm 
It's what happens when a series that was supposed to end gets a sequel that wasn't originally planned. Don't give it that much thought.
Kira Von Black Jul 24, 2018 @ 8:28pm 
Originally posted by Red:
It's what happens when a series that was supposed to end gets a sequel that wasn't originally planned. Don't give it that much thought.
well, the developer is here on the forum, so they could answer this... i guess... but i digress...
Red Jul 24, 2018 @ 8:34pm 
...You do know they're just in charge of the porting and whatnot right? They have no say on a canon discrepancy that's older than most of the people navigating this forum right now. You will not get "Mister CapcomMan" coming out of nowhere and specifically reply to you what's canon and what isn't in a series people have been debating for over 20 years.
Billon Jul 30, 2018 @ 10:27am 
Executive Meddling[tvtropes.org] is what happened.
See also: Retcon
Phoenix Jul 30, 2018 @ 10:32am 
The top is an X5 ending, which takes place 3 years after X5.

X6 takes place 3 weeks after X5, before that X5 ending.

The X5 endings are retconned and non-canon though, since at the time of X5's development X6 wasn't supposed to ever happen.
Datau Jul 30, 2018 @ 12:21pm 
There have been lengthy discussions regarding the canonicity of the post X5-storyline.

Some people believe in the alternate timeline theory: the Zero and ZX series are considered not canon, and the story continues as it is told in X6, X7 and X8. Command Mission is of questionable canonicity, but mostly fits with this theory.

Others believe that the X series will eventually lead into the Zero series, and later into the ZX series. In this regard, Zero's ending of X6 implies that he will go into a suspended animation of sorts, thus laying the foundation of his own series. CM is almost always considered not canon in this continuity.

Then there is a significant portion of the fanbase that believes in their own headcanon because the "official" timeline is a mess full of contradictions. I am among those. A flexible approach is ideal for discarding the poorly thought parts, while keeping the rest as close to "canon" as possible..
Leandro Jul 30, 2018 @ 7:54pm 
The plot is messy, but loose.

A serious writter could easily fix the plot with a few dialogues and scenes.

One single well made game can tie X8 mavericks to the start of the ElfWars, the rise of Weil, the slumber of Zero and the death of X. And there we go, from Lumine to Ciel.

Thing is, Capcom did not set down the links between zero, sigma and willy. It's up since X2, and till X8 its still not explained. They set the cliff hanger, and is still hanging.
Call Sign: Raven Jul 30, 2018 @ 8:53pm 
Originally posted by Kira Von Black (JOOJKIIK):
Okay,Capcom, Clarify this once and for all... was it 3 years or 3 weeks between x5 or X6?!
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1450437775

Everyone knows that X6 - X8 was Capcom's money-cashgrab to take advantage of all of us X fanboys/girls, so those are officially not canon. Only everything up to X5 is canon. Take the rest as some bizarre fan-fiction.
Kira Von Black Aug 1, 2018 @ 7:22am 
i believe it's 3 years, and the weeks is just a miswriting...(another example of miswriting: "there is no one else is left to fight", "i hid myself while i repaired myself", "i will create the stronglest and prefect reploids".) like... they didn't remember it was years and had to fill with something else?! is like everyone said... it's a mess and we don't know for sure -_-
Last edited by Kira Von Black; Aug 1, 2018 @ 7:26am
Known Fact Aug 5, 2018 @ 7:00pm 
It's a really simple retcon. X5's ending just gets fast forwarded because they need the eurasia aftermath for X6's setting.
Gingerbread Man Aug 8, 2018 @ 6:59pm 
X6 was developed without the knowledge of some of the staff of X5. Which is why the story is a bit wonky. X5 was meant to end the series and bridge into Megaman Zero.

I think the same is happening with the original MegaMan series with how it keeps being extended, instead of ending at 8. Dr. Wily created Zero using the Dark Energy found in MegaMan 8. In the power battles (which seems to take place near that game) we know he has the designs for Zero already done. I do believe Zero ends up killing Dr. Wily too (MegaMan X4). The virus that turns reploids maverick is actually that dark energy (I think it's in MegaMan X5 this is shown?). Zero is the carrier of the virus.
Last edited by Gingerbread Man; Aug 10, 2018 @ 8:12am
Mobius1 May 14, 2020 @ 7:36pm 
@gingerbread man,
Yep!

Btw, there are major story spoilers in this post for those who have not played X5...

Mega Man 9 and 10 have zero connection to Mega Man 8. Mega Man 11 is a quick solution by Capcom to the problem of losing their grip on their Mega Man IP.
It is not cannon, at all. The 3 latest Mega Man titles should have been like the gameboy games....a side series telling other stories of Mega Man Vs. Wily.

Mega Man 8 ended with the impression that Dr. Wily's evil designs finally caught up with him. That ending was very final. Wily clearly has a look impending death on his face when the fortress blows. Not sure yet what I think of the possibility of Zero killing him, but yeah that could have happened if Wily escaped and woke zero in some deep section of his hidden lab in the volcano. In X5 you clearly go back to the very same fortress from Mega Man 8. That proves Zero awoke there.

The evil energy is clearly what Wily utilized to create Zero...and it is what is behind the virus he created. What is incredible is how advanced Wily's designs are compared to Dr. Light's. Zero is clearly the most powerful robot ever made in the Mega Man universe, and Dr. Wily assured his unending vengeance on humanity through the virus.

Mega Man Zero, which I only just picked up last week,clearly takes off from X5. Zero is in the remains of a destroyed lab in what could easily be the remains of the same volcano based lab from Mega Man 8 and x5. How he was repaired can only be explained through either his own self repair process, or maybe he somehow managed to connect to a repair facility in the lab (very unlikely), or maybe the Spirit of Dr. Light had a part to play again. X6, X7, and X8 can never be considered cannon. Again, they would have to be side stories at best.

Hey, check out Mega Man X Corrupted.
Last edited by Mobius1; May 14, 2020 @ 7:37pm
Lost Drunk Aug 14, 2020 @ 12:54pm 
Mega Man X6 was a project created in haste, so it contains several chronological errors and poorly explained events.
No matter what they say, the mistake is from Capcom.

The classic series, X and Zero are not officially linked. X series was originally a spin off. Probably Zero was supposed to be an X spin off.
Honestly I don't care if it has a real connection, I prefer to keep thinking about interesting theories than to receive a disillusional conclusion from Cacpom. Capcom has already shown that fan projects are better than official ones, which is why Capcom always tries to stop them.
funewchie Oct 12, 2020 @ 11:44am 
Originally posted by Mechwarrior3050:
@gingerbread man,
Yep!

Btw, there are major story spoilers in this post for those who have not played X5...

Mega Man 9 and 10 have zero connection to Mega Man 8. Mega Man 11 is a quick solution by Capcom to the problem of losing their grip on their Mega Man IP.
It is not cannon, at all. The 3 latest Mega Man titles should have been like the gameboy games....a side series telling other stories of Mega Man Vs. Wily.

Mega Man 8 ended with the impression that Dr. Wily's evil designs finally caught up with him. That ending was very final. Wily clearly has a look impending death on his face when the fortress blows. Not sure yet what I think of the possibility of Zero killing him, but yeah that could have happened if Wily escaped and woke zero in some deep section of his hidden lab in the volcano. In X5 you clearly go back to the very same fortress from Mega Man 8. That proves Zero awoke there.

The evil energy is clearly what Wily utilized to create Zero...and it is what is behind the virus he created. What is incredible is how advanced Wily's designs are compared to Dr. Light's. Zero is clearly the most powerful robot ever made in the Mega Man universe, and Dr. Wily assured his unending vengeance on humanity through the virus.

Mega Man Zero, which I only just picked up last week,clearly takes off from X5. Zero is in the remains of a destroyed lab in what could easily be the remains of the same volcano based lab from Mega Man 8 and x5. How he was repaired can only be explained through either his own self repair process, or maybe he somehow managed to connect to a repair facility in the lab (very unlikely), or maybe the Spirit of Dr. Light had a part to play again. X6, X7, and X8 can never be considered cannon. Again, they would have to be side stories at best.

Hey, check out Mega Man X Corrupted.

Eh, Wily always looks like he's gonna die.
Mega Man 3 outright implied he'd been killed, until it was revealed in 4 that he was still alive and well. (implying the debris missed him)

As for Zero, as much of a control freak as Wily is, that wouldn't make sense for him to be taken out by Zero. Wily likely had full control of Zero.
(Since it's implied that he's still around in the X series, it wouldn't make sense for him to help Zero if Zero had killed him.
(And Sigma outright stated in X5 he'd been helped by an old man who knows a lot about Zero))

X5 makes lots of references to past games. It's hinted that the Enigma cannon is the weapon that Web Spider was guarding in X4 (similar designs).

I hate to tell you, but the original script for Zero is not what's in the final version. So any connections with X5 are shot to pieces.
(I'll spare you the spoilers, through. Enjoy Mega Man Zero!)
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I could believe Capcom's idea of the Virus' origins, as that does fit Wily's MO quite a bit.
Wily wasn't out to destroy the world, he wanted to conquer it, and prove he's the greatest.

(Mega Man: "This is opening night. And Wily, he's a full-tilt diva, right? He wants flowers, he wants parades. He wants a monument built to the skies with his name plastered...")

Wily can't prove anything or get his praises, if everyone's dead.
So, it would makes sense that Zero had a flaw in his brain, and Wily just didn't have the time to fix it (either from his age or his schemes), so he put Zero in a capsule with a diagnostic program to fix him.
Sure, the program got corrupted into a virus, but it did, ironically, carry out it's original function and fixed Zero by infecting him.

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My headcanon for the X-Zero series split, is that it happened in X6.

For the Zero series path, X didn't find Zero (believing him to be dead), and Zero snuck off to a scientist to get analyzed. (i.e. X's "no Zero" ending, and Zero's ending)
For the X7 and X8 path, X found Zero, and knocked some sense into him. (i.e. X's "found Zero" ending)

As for X5, none of it's endings really tie into the Zero series, especially regarding what later games in that series say happened in their backstory.
(Which I'll avoid for the sake of those starting into that series. Seriously, enjoy the series, and ZX series, too.)
Last edited by funewchie; Oct 12, 2020 @ 10:11pm
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