Defiance 2050

Defiance 2050

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Espectra Jun 19, 2018 @ 10:42am
Pay to win or free to play?
How long you guys thing about this game going into the same direction as Archeage?
I call 2 patches
Or... they learn the lesson?
Maybe a little less thick pay wall
Last edited by Espectra; Jun 19, 2018 @ 10:45am
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volume Jun 19, 2018 @ 10:45am 
F2P
Espectra Jun 19, 2018 @ 10:48am 
Originally posted by FolD.:
F2P
Most likely the question is about the abusive paywall model that they actually use on every single game..
ProVegaGamer Jun 19, 2018 @ 12:55pm 
Defiance Original = F2P, No pay to win, the game is a PVE game. There is however "pay to enjoy" all over the place.

Defiance 2050, F2P, No pay to win, the game is a PVE Game. There is no pay to enjoy anymore, because everything that was pay with real money to enjoy in the original defiance is now free.

I do want to point out something, both games are a "grind". But its a fun grind. Years ago, when the original defiance had over 5000 players daily online on both servers, it was easier to level up and quicker too, at this very moment, its really difficult to level up so fast because there's not enough players online anymore. So hopefully with 2050, it will be way more players and when you join arkfalls, seiges, etc you can level up faster. But you also want to take your time leveling up and building your character and weapons up, no need to rush, just saying its going to be a grind. It does help with that XP boost though, and I'm not sure how that's going to work in 2050. In the original defiance, i only paid a dollar for XP boosts to show up every now and then all the time,so that did help me level up a bit faster.
Stand with Ukraine Jun 22, 2018 @ 12:41pm 
It's Trion, welcome to microtransactional hell
Last edited by Stand with Ukraine; Jun 22, 2018 @ 12:41pm
Cmdo.Delta Jun 22, 2018 @ 2:58pm 
Originally posted by Solaire the Streetwise:
It's Trion, welcome to microtransactional hell
Depends if said microtransaction are locking content... that's what it was happenning with first game :( I dont mind paying for good looking cosmetics though! I did in first game.
Hippy Treehugger Jun 22, 2018 @ 3:18pm 
there's prolly gonna be a pay wall some where or a point where unless you pat, you can't continue
Espectra Jun 22, 2018 @ 3:45pm 
And now wtf with the game... after the cinematic i cant do ♥♥♥♥, no quest or anything... also the chat is broken
Cmdo.Delta Jun 22, 2018 @ 4:14pm 
I mean nothing from what i seen in beta (from streamers) make me want buy the founder pack.. i'll reinstall and give it a try when it's released... maybe they fixed few ♥♥♥♥♥♥ features... it was a fun game just bad design... and if content is stuck behind a paywall, most people wont bother buy it.. as it's the same game as first one lol... dont put money into this before release and before you see how it is and how people react to it.. but i think it's too late for this game to be saved honestly.. making a new game copy/paste of an older one not being super popular, look like a dumb move to me...
Espectra Jun 22, 2018 @ 4:20pm 
I got 100h on Defiance from like 4 years ago and i can say, that ♥♥♥♥ was pay to enjoy 100%
-{Geo}- Cegorach Jun 22, 2018 @ 4:25pm 
Originally posted by Solaire the Streetwise:
It's Trion, welcome to microtransactional hell

Warframe also have Microtransaction Hell, but still is Fairest game on the market.
But, some stuff is fearing me too, I just hope that I'm wrong, but I really do not want to see same DLC/Shop crap as they did with Original game (last DLCs definitely were P2W, cos Items, which give some Combat advantage became usable in PvP modes too, but even in PvE such stuff is not a good thing...). But, as I say before, hope I'm wrong and they will not repeat same mistakes with this game.
Macduff Jun 22, 2018 @ 4:30pm 
Right now, in this so called "Open Beta" it's completely free to NOT Play. You zone into the tutorial map and see all of the mobs, npc's, quests...only in your mind. Yes, it's seriously bugged.
Should see the official forums and in game chat. Yeah, they'll probably fix it rsn but since the devs are demonstrating the same level of tech skill they do in vanilla Defiance we can expect similar results in 2050.
Espectra Jun 22, 2018 @ 4:32pm 
Originally posted by Macduff:
Right now, in this so called "Open Beta" it's completely free to NOT Play. You zone into the tutorial map and see all of the mobs, npc's, quests...only in your mind. Yes, it's seriously bugged.
Should see the official forums and in game chat. Yeah, they'll probably fix it rsn but since the devs are demonstrating the same level of tech skill they do in vanilla Defiance we can expect similar results in 2050.
If you change into the EU server from the Trion launcher the npcs actually spawn but still garbage...
-{Geo}- Cegorach Jun 22, 2018 @ 4:37pm 
Originally posted by E͇͓̩͙̦sp͍ect͎̭̪r̫͉̞a:
I got 100h on Defiance from like 4 years ago and i can say, that ♥♥♥♥ was pay to enjoy 100%

Definitely not, most content was Pay to Play, DLCs had equipement which was usable in PvP and give slight advantage to DLC owners, also this content was not Tradable or Equipable if you do not own DLC. Also in last DLC they add items which give great advantage in PvP too, and even in PvE people did not take players who did not own that DLCs to the Instances, aka Raids, Arkfalls and Dungeons, so players without DLCs stay out from the game even in PvE, in PvP there was no chance to win against player who owned that DLC.
So, Defiance was P2Wish game, not exactly P2W and still enjoyable if you spend money to the Shop and not into DLCs, but in last Updates it became heavily P2W, btw, this was the reason why so many players drop the game, cos mass did not own that DLCs and then even DLC owners stay out of players to play content of the game.
Shortly, Exactly their Ugly model kill the game (you can say, that game is not dead, but try, go in and find group to play group content....)

Btw, P2W in modern meaning is not used just to explain "Pay and Win" or "if do not pay, then do not win", but is mentioned as a Paywall content which give Gameplay advantage over players who do not spend money on This specific content, and no matter game is PvP or PvE, when game have Gameplay content hidden behind paywalls and which divide players, than it's P2W as a tern and not as an abbreviation.
Also Defiance have PvP content too and it was quite popular content.
Silly Goy Jun 22, 2018 @ 5:03pm 
Free to download but bring your own players. This game will be DOA. it is the exact same game from 2013 but somehow worse. The beta is the most depressing thing you can imagine. You spawn into an empty map that is a straight downer. Then 20 mins later some lootboxes spawn so you can refill your ammo ffs. It might be ok on console for a few months tho.
Last edited by Silly Goy; Jun 22, 2018 @ 5:05pm
ProVegaGamer Jun 22, 2018 @ 5:12pm 
Well i am enjoying 2050, looking forward to all the new changes and stuff coming from the devs in the future, there was a dev online and he listen to our feedback and gave us some good news.
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Date Posted: Jun 19, 2018 @ 10:42am
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