i don't understand the hate

[UnKnownGamer]

the game is not bad and the game can be fun at times and i don't understand the hate

[★ GallowDancer]

Yeah exactly. In my opinion it is the best one. I recently played SR2 and that game isn't as good as I remember. This seems like a redone SR1-SR2 that is brought to modern day. SR3, SR4 and SR GOH where too overboard with whacky things. I like that this game is not filled with crazy things like dubstep guns.

[MisseMiau]

For me its mostly the game breaking bugs i get every now n then where i have to restart the game fully and lose progress. else the game is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ amazing and def my fav out of all the saints row.

[Candesco]

Originally posted by ★ Big Fungus:

Yeah exactly. In my opinion it is the best one. I recently played SR2 and that game isn't as good as I remember. This seems like a redone SR1-SR2 that is brought to modern day. SR3, SR4 and SR GOH where too overboard with whacky things. I like that this game is not filled with crazy things like dubstep guns.

You say that SR2 isn't as good as you remember. That sound not very convincing and i guess you just merely played a few minutes and maybe not at all. As long as you haven't properly played SR2 you can't say it's not good. In my opinion Saints Row 2 is the best, despite that the pc version was bad ported and doesn't have the 3 dlc (console exclusive)
But with gentlemen of the row from idolninja it can be played normally. Saints Row 2 reminds me alot to Grand Theft Auto San Andreas.

[Cloud Kicker]

Originally posted by UnKnownGamer:

the game is not bad

Right now, maybe, I will take your word for it.

Originally posted by UnKnownGamer:

i don't understand the hate

I guess the shortest and shortest way to explain this would be to imagine a restaurant, a nice steakhouse called Fatti A Mano, the guy running the place has the honorific Don, and it might even feel a bit pretentious at times but the last time someone came in disrespecting his house 2 big knuckleheads appeared like out of nowhere and made him disappear before half the serving staff even knew there was a problem.

for 15 years you follow your own path of life way away from town. One day though you find yourself near Fatti A Mano and you think to yourself. Yeah I could go for a nice steak. The atmosphere always was a bit of a pecculiar one but the steak and the serving staff they were always top knotch. Turns out though that Don is gone, replaced by some guy with a manbun. Serving staff has all been replaced by order terminals or phone apps. Not a steak in sight when you realize that Fatti A Mano is now a vegan restaurant.

Is there anything wrong with the above? You can be the judge of that. But are the two Fatti A Mano 's even remotely similar? Absolutely not. I am not even sure what to call it but it is like the new Fatti A Mano is wearing the old Fatti A Mano like a suit or a front but on the inside it isn't anything alike according to those who knew about the old Don.

That made up story is, in simile, what old school Saints Row fans used to fuel their hate when it came to this reboot. It is not violent enough, it is not story driven enough, it does not feel right, and there is some huge new ludonarrative dissonance, which is just the tip of the iceberg.

[Mike]

The biggest problem that people had with the reboot is that the devs had a clear disdain and hatred of what made the original SR games so good (or at least their parent company made sure nothing too controversial made its way into the game).

I'm actually with OP in that I bought the game on release on Epic Games store and I enjoyed my entire playthrough without much issues (a few bugs here and there). I have played every SR game since the original and I still enjoyed the Reboot because I was able to separate it from the rest of the series and I also liked how they grounded the series again then being super spies, presidents, super heros,....etc.

Its funny because I actually like the Reboot much more then anything past SR2, as I did not like the over-the-top direction the series went in after SR2 (SR3-4). There are many many things that the reboot did better then the older games imo (driving, shooting, visuals mainly), but it did not help when most of the player base wanted Saint's Row 2.5 (which was never going to come).

My biggest issue with the backlash was that in our current overly sensitive generations, how could any person think they would get a SR game as raw as the originals? It was never going to happen and you know as soon as companies like Rockstar start going soft there is no hope with other games of the genre.

My biggest dislike of the Reboot was the forced and interjected identity political stuff (like LGBT flags in certain places of the game), but the game itself was just a fun open world GTA clone imo. I believe they also squandered the marketing given they made the "boss" a black female, feminists looking character with short hair, as if that would ever appeal to the demographic of the original games. I mean you had a game series that was based around 90s gangster rap culture, and now you have a game of geeky nerdy college kids "acting" like gangster (and failing at that), so I can see why the marketing of this game failed miserably.

I mark this game up as another game series interjected with EGS garbage and then threw to the wolves when it did not meet expected sales. People think this is bad wait until EGS filled GTA 6 gets closer to release with its "realistic racists cops" and female lead, if they think it will be even close to what even GTA 5 was boy they are going to be in for a rude awaking.

[BenjiMLG]

yes really busy

[Alinar Fenfaren]

It got hate because the (s)alt-right incels didnt like the fact a black woman was used in the marketing, and also because of the LGBT flags, which the homophobes didn't like either.

[zirkustier]

This is of course a good argument for not having to talk about weaknesses in the gameplay.

[Scarhead]

I only hate this game because it would be fun in coop, but because of constant disconnects and infinite loading screens it's just not playable. The problem exists since release on Epic and never was fixed.

[UnKnownGamer]

Originally posted by Scarhead:

I only hate this game because it would be fun in coop, but because of constant disconnects and infinite loading screens it's just not playable. The problem exists since release on Epic and never was fixed.

i can play the game without no bugs i have not come across any bugs.

[DR GOO]

It doesn't matter as the game bombed hard even before it was released. Pitiful stats for a AAA title.

tldr: No-one bought it apart from soy laced incels

[Cosgar]

If people complained about the bugs as much as they Pavlov's Dogwhistle, the game would be a lot better. I keep having to reboot because my controller stops working. But a bunch of overly sensitive incels will tell you how a black woman in the promotional material ruined the game.

[9oaD]

Is that what Elon wants more space satellites for so he can post his tweets to the night sky? If I subscribe I better get a blue check mark overhead

[Cosgar]

My biggest complaint is the jank and the overall tone. Thankfully I have yet to really run into anything game breaking, but definitely needs some polish. It also feels like a lot of content was cut in places as well.
It feels like a reboot of 1 & 2 but also tries to capture a bit of the silliness of 3 & 4 at the same time. It works sometimes but it hurts the overall identity of the game when something like Yakuza nails when to be serious and when to be outright silly.

[Aerooooooo]

I personally think what's really interesting about the Saints Row reboot is all the diehard SR3/4 fans acting like those games are really any different or better.

This series died with Johnny Gat in SR3, and quite honestly, my hot take is that Saints Row 2 never needed any sequels to begin with, like a lot of other games out there.

Saints Row is just the latest victim of what so many franchises in media, let alone gaming, have experienced. Someone, somewhere, wants money, and rather than come up with something new, just grabs some random old IP and tries to reboot it, to "reimagine" it and it usually ends up going horribly.

You knew Volition was out of touch when they thought Jane Austen was a perfect fit for a game about aliens. Not an author like Kurt Vonnegut, y'know, a guy whose most famous novel was all about aliens meddling in human affairs, but Jane. Austen. An author that literally nobody outside bored housewives who think they're too mature for Fifty Shades gives a ♥♥♥♥ about.

Originally posted by Cosgar:

My biggest complaint is the jank and the overall tone. Thankfully I have yet to really run into anything game breaking, but definitely needs some polish. It also feels like a lot of content was cut in places as well.
It feels like a reboot of 1 & 2 but also tries to capture a bit of the silliness of 3 & 4 at the same time. It works sometimes but it hurts the overall identity of the game when something like Yakuza nails when to be serious and when to be outright silly.

Honestly, Yakuza blows all this Western ♥♥♥♥ out of the water. I thought so even back in the PS2 years - I got my hands on 1 and 2, and never looked back.