Survival BS1 help!

[Taiketsu]

So guys im in a big pinch here. I finished BS2 survival mode until stage 125 on my 1. try but BS1 survival is hell.
Im hard stuck on stack 65+ bc of the sheer amount of enemys and mostly in stage 71+ i die.
Any tips for those? if it helps ill post my skills set i use.

[Adamine]

There is another discussion that may help you
https://steamcommunity.com/app/741140/discussions/0/2632850678910716879/

[Taiketsu]

tried some stuff but sadly doesnt save me from getting surrounded and eating aircombo or wall crush etc.
I mostly try to go on distance around stage 65+ with flamethrower and gatling gun and try to pick the sturdy enemys up with melee move.
Also seem to have slight problems with those yellow Ardant? dude bc they ignore my punch sometimes bc of invicible? move or something which only my bazooka breaks atm.

[Lapu]

Originally posted by Taiketsu:

tried some stuff but sadly doesnt save me from getting surrounded and eating aircombo or wall crush etc.
I mostly try to go on distance around stage 65+ with flamethrower and gatling gun and try to pick the sturdy enemys up with melee move.
Also seem to have slight problems with those yellow Ardant? dude bc they ignore my punch sometimes bc of invicible? move or something which only my bazooka breaks atm.

Hmm yeah. Advent enemies are just terrible at normal and above, especially if there is more than just one of them. They move slowly and have an attack where they strike two times. The problem is that this attack stunlocks you and it gets really painful if they swamp you. The "invincibility" is due to their shields. If you look at their health bar, you see a small white decreasing bar. This indicates that their shield is up. You can only stagger them, when the shield is down so either wait it out or attack with piercing attacks (dunno, probably Shotgun, Tackle or Swayback Knife or something should work). My general advice for them is to just save them for last since they are very slow and you need space and patience to bait them. One of my most hated enemy types.

[Lapu]

Oh also, if you take a look at the machine data, you can see that their HP scales like crazy with difficulty. It's one of the very few enemies whose difficulty inflates so ridiculously that they have like 2 bars more on very hard compared to enemies of similar strength while it's almost the other way around on very easy.

[Taiketsu]

Well i dunno if survival mode is affected by the difficulty setting but yes then well lets say im garbage. After trying 2days to beat BS1 survival past stage 70+ on VERY EASY i gave up on beating it.
The problem was mostly that i couldnt even get to attack the enemies without being a punching back and getting comboed to death with 1 mistake.
BS2 was a lot easier in that regard but yeah i gave up sadly as it is T_T"

[ひたぎ]

So true, BS1 survivor mode is too difficult. I was very surprised by it after sliding through BS2's at first try.

[Lapu]

Just use HP cheat. Seriously it's ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ impossible. Gilbert and Shizel at the same time and 12+ Enemies at stage 70? This is too difficult. Oh and yes it seems as if the difficulty is hard locked at either normal or hard (which both are overkill for that amount of enemies plus multiple bosses at once). I wonder if they even tested this mode before keeping it that way. If this had been a popular game in recent times, they probably would have been pressed to patch it. The fact that enemies can just continue to pummel you while you're mid-air or on the ground, unable to do anything just takes the cake. It's so extreme that some of them managed to break through the shield during tackle. How? Therefore, just cheat if you want the achievement. It's not really possible any other way.

[Lapu]

I've read the japanese wiki right now and they advise to suspend and make a backup of the GIGA folder in your Documents, containing the save files. That way, you can just save scum when you get killed (even then it's too hard since you need to survived 5 battles in a row for this to be any help). They also advise to kill those fish (mola-mola) immediately since they can interrupt your aerial combos. The difficulty is not changeable. Force does not carry over and is just a sort of record being tracked. FC is apparently very dangerous (yes it is) and you should only use Initializer if anything (personally I think Xiuhcoatl works too if you can pull it off without an enemy creeping behind you/having shield). Eiji and Isao are particularly dangerous (add Nagisa "don't stop the rhythm" Chinatsu to the list). It doesn't stop at 100 but there really is nothing to gain past that level.

Here's a list of all items:
5: Secret File Aki
10: Wallpaper Kou/Rain
15: Wallpaper Gilbert
20: Secret File Makoto
25: Wallpaper Naoki
30: CPU behavior in practice mode
35: Secret File Sora
45: Wallpaper Isao (google translated it as islam lol)
60: Overkill plug-in (let's you attack normal enemies when they are dead; just like bosses)
80: Wallpaper Chibi
100: Wallpaper Kou (apparently his name is translated as shank)

EDIT: Oh, they also added a pro tip for the save scum. You can designate the save file as "read-only". That way it doesn't overwrite when you get killed. Though you have to be careful so you don't lose progress when you do it that way.

[Taiketsu]

Well while it is rly hard i dont want to cheat even if it was for trophys/plug-ins.
And now i see i only missed 2 wallpapers which isnt "that" bad. Weirdly enough i seem to have missed 1 Hscene even through i did all Scenario paths and saw all secret files.
But again can only say the game was worth my time and enjoyed it a lot <3

[Lapu]

Originally posted by Taiketsu:

Well while it is rly hard i dont want to cheat even if it was for trophys/plug-ins.
And now i see i only missed 2 wallpapers which isnt "that" bad. Weirdly enough i seem to have missed 1 Hscene even through i did all Scenario paths and saw all secret files.
But again can only say the game was worth my time and enjoyed it a lot <3

May be the ones for Noi. There is one missable on Rain's route where you have to have Criminal Record enabled for the choice to appear. Then, there's also an easily missable secret file for her. You have to have enabled the Criminal Record plug-in and choose "I want to play pretend S&M" on Sora's route during one chapter.

[Taiketsu]

I have those but the one that would be missing is the right one after Nois 2. rape replay scene if i remember right.
As sad before i did all scenario paths and got all secret files.

[Lapu]

Oh those. Yeah those are the ones were Noi gets ganbanged and Nanoha is forced to masturbate during the timed mission in Nanoha's route. The scenario chart only displays 3 paths but there are actually 5 different scenes (When you finish the fight before Miko's first warning: Noi gangbang but they only ♥♥♥ in her mouth; when you finish after first warning: they also ♥♥♥ inside her; after second warning: Nanoha is forced to masturbate; some time later but before the dead end threshold: Nanoha is forced to masturbate while naked; and lastly after like 3:45 min: Nanoha is gang raped). I actually had the stamina to play through Nanoha's route 5 times to see all of them, even though that isn't necessary for gallery completion.

[Taiketsu]

i think i saw all 5 variations but maybe i missed one. well i might check that out if ill decide to replay BS in the future.
Maybe ill try Baldr Force soon.

[Morthra]

Originally posted by Dis:

FC is apparently very dangerous (yes it is) and you should only use Initializer if anything (personally I think Xiuhcoatl works too if you can pull it off without an enemy creeping behind you/having shield)

You can also use the FC that creates a swarm of gun drones. There's very little animation lock. Imperial Finish is also usable if you can create space for it; if you land the sweet spot you can chunk enemies for 10k damage or more.

[Experiment1]

.... Seriously....., who designed these Dive 1 Survival stages??? Lol.....