Judith's Altered Arts Simple Guide + a Question

[Knightmage Bael]

So I'm not used to the content released for the PS3/definitive edition. It seems some things were changed too, so here's what I've discovered for Judith's Altered artes (the names have changed so I couldn't really look them up too easily, took a lot of cross referencing)

Rising Luna Rondo Issue:

I've had some trouble getting a couple of these. Specifically Judith is unable to use "Rising Luna Rondo" for some awkward reason, is unable to physically use it with Dispersion + Luna Rondo, I have to chain into it from another arte. I use Dawn Moon into "Rising" Luna Rondo, and thats the only way I'm able to use it for some reason)

For some reason Moonlit Knife and Dawn Moon Falcon are called something completely different in other releases. I COULD NOT find either of them with a google search LMAO. There are a couple other skills that have changed names as well.

Given that, I think this is very important information.

So here's my list for her altered artes. I know you can get it off the wiki, but hopefully it'll help some people.

----------------------------------Actual Altered Artes List--------------------------------------------------------------------

Rising Lunda Rondo= Luna Rondo + Dispersion (from Shiva)

::Bloody Rose = Luna Ascendant + Wandering Miser Costume
-------> (wiki called it "Rutee Katrea", and that's the character its based off, NOT the name of
the title, which you need to wear until she learns it.)

Guiding Moon =Crescent Strike + Great Deluge (from Shiva)
Moonbeam-Bird =Moonbeam + Hellfire (Ahriman)
Thunder Moon =Luna Crush + Hellfire + Gale (Ahriman/ Serpent Staff or Aries)
Luna Storm =Luna Havoc + Hellfire + Alembic (Ahriman/Shakujo or Aries)
Moonlight Drop =Moonlight Talon + Chain (Ahriman)
Luna Talon = Luna Fang + Athenor (Beast Slayer)
Moonlit Knife = New Moon Blade + Crucible (Green Dragon Crescent Blade)
Dawn Moon Falcon =Dawn Moon + Alembic (Shakujo or Aries)
Raging Luna Storm = Luna Storm + Gale (Serpent Staff or Aries)

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also a question: has anyone else had an issue with Rising Luna Rondo like me, or am I the only one? Legit curious.

[noctus_darkfire]

yup. playing Definitive on the Nintendo Switch, trying to learn all the altered artes by using them the required number of times. and i JUST hit that exact issue. for some reason i hit the button... and judith just stands there doing nothing. tis rather annoying to be honest. i don't suppose you have found a work around for this issue other then chaining it into another arte?

I am terrible with Combos so i usually map the arte i am working on to the default button and then spam the arte until i learn the altered version.

[Knightmage Bael]

Originally posted by noctus_darkfire:

yup. playing Definitive on the Nintendo Switch, trying to learn all the altered artes by using them the required number of times. and i JUST hit that exact issue. for some reason i hit the button... and judith just stands there doing nothing. tis rather annoying to be honest. i don't suppose you have found a work around for this issue other then chaining it into another arte?

I am terrible with Combos so i usually map the arte i am working on to the default button and then spam the arte until i learn the altered version.

Unfortunately no.

The only way I can seem to do it is by casting another arte that can chain into luna rondo so I can hit the altered arte.

I'm wondering if its a bug. Might want to figure out how to report it to BanCo.

Judith's combos work SO much better with all her altered artes. Its like night and day. With all her altered artes and arial skills unlocked, she can stay in the air almost indefinitely, especially in NG+ with your OL gauge skills active, because then you can just spam everything, and if you use (is it Imperial Crest? the item that increases OL gauge gain) she's pretty much never not in OL xD

[zsedc_qa]

You have to be in the air (jump or use other attacks that sends you off the ground) to use Luna Rondo/ Rising Luna Rondo, or 100 uses in the arte to use it while on the ground

[Knightmage Bael]

Originally posted by zsedc_qa:

You have to be in the air (jump or use other attacks that sends you off the ground) to use Luna Rondo/ Rising Luna Rondo, or 100 uses in the arte to use it while on the ground

You'd think, but it doesn't tend to work that way. That's why you have to use an arte that puts you into it, then chain it. Using by itself doesn't work, even with the skill active, which is weird, because it shouldn't work that way.

[sarteck]

Originally posted by Archmage_Bael:

Rising Luna Rondo Issue:

I've had some trouble getting a couple of these. Specifically Judith is unable to use "Rising Luna Rondo" for some awkward reason, is unable to physically use it with Dispersion + Luna Rondo, I have to chain into it from another arte. I use Dawn Moon into "Rising" Luna Rondo, and thats the only way I'm able to use it for some reason)

THANK YOU for providing this method. I am having the same issue myself, and thanks to you, I'm finally able to start learning RLR.

This is my first play through of any of the Tales games, and I was getting a little frustrated that I couldn't seem to get it to activate.

[Knightmage Bael]

Originally posted by sarteck:

Originally posted by Archmage_Bael:

Rising Luna Rondo Issue:

I've had some trouble getting a couple of these. Specifically Judith is unable to use "Rising Luna Rondo" for some awkward reason, is unable to physically use it with Dispersion + Luna Rondo, I have to chain into it from another arte. I use Dawn Moon into "Rising" Luna Rondo, and thats the only way I'm able to use it for some reason)

THANK YOU for providing this method. I am having the same issue myself, and thanks to you, I'm finally able to start learning RLR.

This is my first play through of any of the Tales games, and I was getting a little frustrated that I couldn't seem to get it to activate.

Yeah I was a little surprised myself. This problem didn't exist in the original editions.