Can't get shining star title for Raven

[Magna]

I've done everything in aurnion, the city is fully rebuilt, there are no more sidequests to do but I'm still missing the scene to get the title.

Raven has 150 skills learned and I enter the city as Raven (tried a lot of things like resting in other cities etc)

Any ideas?

[Miraglyth]

I've been spending a few days now experimenting with a save just outside Aurnion without entering after the scene that names it (when Flynn joins permanently). One of my things to check for is when Shining Star unlocks; I'm up to 99 Raven skills now. I'll be able to update you soon about whether getting 100 and entering town works.

Edit: Yeah, starting from 100 mastered skills, that scene seems to take the top priority on the entering-town list (above Tough Hound and Final Gale).

This is a chance to experiment. Out of interest, do you have Raven's "Imperial Knights Captain" title? Given some of the character interactions with that, it's possible that it's another requirement to get Shining Star.

[Magna]

Yeah I have Raven's Imperial Knights Captain. I finally got Shining Star by dowloading the dlc (wich I didn't like because I wanted to get it by myself)

[Miraglyth]

Another possibility is that two scenes concerning the Union that are thought to be about the Imperial Knights Captain title are not, but are needed for Shining Star. If so you may still need to do those.

I'm not sure what else it could be. It should happen with priority over Tough Hound and Final Gale. I'd guess maybe it might not be able to happen after Aurnion is developed but if you have 150 mastered you probably had at least 100 before doing that.

Separately I wonder if you can get the scene in Tarqaron if you have the title but didn't do the scene to get it.

[Viktori]

the secret, iirc, is entering Aurnion with Raven as your on screen character, this requirement is very rarely used in the game, almost exclusively here with Raven and at one point in the main story with Judith. where she must be the on screen character to talk to an NPC to advance the plot. I believe in the case of the Shining star title, you must have Raven as your on screen character before entering Aurnion in order for the proper character to spawn in to trigger the cutscene.

[Miraglyth]

The OP said they already tried entering town with Raven as the active character. Also I can personally confirm that you do not need Raven as the active character for Shining Star. Nor does he need to be using any particular title or attachment.

You do need Raven as the active character when entering Aurnion for Drake to appear for the Vanji Lost scene. You also need Raven as the active character when talking to him for that scene (otherwise he just greets Estelle). That's a different scene to the Shining Star one though.

The most likely explanation for this is that one or more of the other scenes earlier in the game is a pre-requisite for Shining Star, but nobody has made the connection and the OP by chance happens to have not done them. I'd ask the OP which sidequest guide (if any) they followed, as most of them have several deficiencies.

Another possibility is that there's another character progression requirement on top of having 100 skills mastered (by the way I'd urge a recount on 150 since Raven apparently only has 132 skills in total[aselia.fandom.com]). For instance maybe he needs to know 20 artes. But I'd be really surprised about this one since I've almost never used Raven in my first playthrough and only know 2 altered artes, neither of which have been used enough to be learned. The only plausible ones for me would be level (maybe 60, if the OP got to Aurnion fast) or titles (having done all the sidequests available by Aurnion I might have more than the OP).

Edit: Did some more searching, one or two users back on the Xbox 360 version reported the same difficulties and no solutions were found. This one really feels like it requires another scene.

[chrcoluk]

other scenes with leblanc are a prequel to this, so if you miss them its tough luck.

[Miraglyth]

I suspect, if it is this, that the missed scenes would be with a Dahngrest union official or Kaufman. Leblanc scenes prior to this point are either unrelated to Raven (e.g. one of the guild jobs) or have already been done by the OP (to get the Imperial Knights Captain title).

[chrcoluk]

yes rebuilding the union is also required.

[Miraglyth]

Wow, that's an interesting statement.

"Rebuilding the Union" is what the ameblo.jp guide called a series of four scenes, and which a few other guides copied: "Part 1" is the two I just mentioned, "Part 2" is where Leblanc that gives Imperial Knights Captain (and we know the OP did this one) and "Final Part" involves Drake teaching Vanji Lost.

Those guides say nothing about Shining Star being a part of that sequence, or requiring it. And I can personally confirm that you do not need Drake to teach Vanji Lost before getting Shining Star.

Reviewing the sidequests, there really aren't many scenes starring Raven between Baction and Aurnion. There's the stuff I've described above, the sequence involving Casey and the twins, and a seemingly flavour-only scene for resting at the Dahngrest inn. It'd help to know which of these the OP has also done for sure.

[Magna]

So even tho I finished all sidequests, did all ex dungeons and coliseum and got almost all titles, even tho I got shining star from the dlc I still got it randomly few hours ago while entering aurnion (I entered aurnion like 15 times while finishing Necropolis of Nostalgia) AND also Raven wasn't my screen char so I guess the title is just bugged for some people

[Miraglyth]

Sounds like you met whatever the other requirement/s were between then and now. Was a Necropolis of Nostalgia visit the only thing that separated the Aurnion arrival that earned it and the one before that didn't?

Separate question, can I ask you to recount your Raven skills? As far as I can tell he doesn't have 150.

[Magna]

He had like 170 skills when I first entered aurnion. Yeah the necropolis of nostalgia was the only thing was left for me to do (well I don't have 100% collection or monster book and I'm missing some titles) And like I said I was entering aurnion every time I got a shortcut in the necropolis, when I killed the last boss there I went to aurnion and nothing happend again, then I killed the final boss in his 3rd form and then I was starting to do things like completing monster book, finishing the coliseum with everybody, farming some grade or fell arms power. And suddenly BOOM! I got the title in aurnion when I went to check some synthesis things.

Edit: He had like 350 skills when I got the title

[chrcoluk]

Originally posted by Miraglyth:

Wow, that's an interesting statement.

"Rebuilding the Union" is what the ameblo.jp guide called a series of four scenes, and which a few other guides copied: "Part 1" is the two I just mentioned, "Part 2" is where Leblanc that gives Imperial Knights Captain (and we know the OP did this one) and "Final Part" involves Drake teaching Vanji Lost.

Those guides say nothing about Shining Star being a part of that sequence, or requiring it. And I can personally confirm that you do not need Drake to teach Vanji Lost before getting Shining Star.

Reviewing the sidequests, there really aren't many scenes starring Raven between Baction and Aurnion. There's the stuff I've described above, the sequence involving Casey and the twins, and a seemingly flavour-only scene for resting at the Dahngrest inn. It'd help to know which of these the OP has also done for sure.

ameblo is wrong on a couple of things, another e.g. is that the toy quest wont work until you have to first talk to a guy near the slot machines in the gym.

cut scenese dont just randomly not work, there is a missing requirement for it, and the earlier rebuiolding the union I know is one of them as I did testing in the past where I would deliberatly miss some side questing to see impacts later in the game.

The spell given by drake at the end I dont consider as part of rebuilding the union.

[Miraglyth]

Originally posted by Magna Arisen:

He had like 170 skills when I first entered aurnion. ... Edit: He had like 350 skills when I got the title

I'm seriously wondering what you're considering "skills" here. 350 of what? Are you adding up the SP required to use the skills? As I said before, Raven only has 132 skills[aselia.fandom.com]. Unless that link is wrong and I've missed a lot, 150, 170 or 350 would be impossible.

Originally posted by chrcoluk:

ameblo is wrong on a couple of things, another e.g. is that the toy quest wont work until you have to first talk to a guy near the slot machines in the gym.

That's an understatement and a half. That along with several others (many of which appear to have used it as a primary source) is also why I'm making a guide here off the back of work mostly done 9 years ago to make an accurate guide.

[chrcoluk]

sounds good, look forward to the completion :)