Why is there so much hate on this game?

[HeresGwenny]

Its not gundam breaker 3, and it might be behind on the updates, but its not a buggy broken mess like some other games, and the combat isn't terrible, if anything its about the same as all the other gundam breakers.

[Spamroach]

It's mostly the AI, lack of being able to use Builder Parts for extra abilities and EX actions being locked to certain parts. It kind of sucks building your dream gunpla only for it to have all slots filled with either head vulcans or useless buffs. Hard to bring down a MA with skills like that. Well, it's more than that, but that's my main problem with the game.

[Outsider]

People HATE being pushed out of their comfort zone.
GB1~3 are casual grinding action games, where you just power through mobs and need only to pay attention during boss fights. It's not competitive at all even by PvE standards.

NGB is MOBA-lite i.e. it's built to be competitive, you need to pay attention to what's going on and do specific tasks rather than just kill nearest mobs at your leisure. You're also on the timer and enemy team is dangerous, despite not being boss-type units.
That's a lot of stress and confusion and you can't just button mash your way to win.
People can't handle it.

[Adachi Ame]

Publicado originalmente por Außenseiter:

People HATE being pushed out of their comfort zone.
GB1~3 are casual grinding action games, where you just power through mobs and need only to pay attention during boss fights. It's not competitive at all even by PvE standards.

NGB is MOBA-lite i.e. it's built to be competitive, you need to pay attention to what's going on and do specific tasks rather than just kill nearest mobs at your leisure. You're also on the timer and enemy team is dangerous, despite not being boss-type units.
That's a lot of stress and confusion and you can't just button mash your way to win.
People can't handle it.

False, that is so far from the truth on the matter, the reason it gets hate is because it deserves it. 1. released broken beyond acceptable levels. 2. Charged the price of $60 game. 3. Has VERY little depth to the game. 4. Is far more grindy to the point af heavy repetition. 5. Fails at even trying to do what it wanted to do. 6. Overall the game is really lackluster.

Try to not try and speak for others on that point, only speak from your perspective only. DO NOT TRY to depreciate and write off peoples' valid criticsms on the game, mate. Look you may like the game, but that does not make it a good game in the grand scheme of things.

And before you try to be smarmy or snarky, I've owned this game far longer than most here. June 22nd And try to do your research if you want to try questioning that. (More so not directed towards you, just overall tired of dealing with a certain troll on this board.)

Publicado originalmente por Rev. Dr. Gwebby Gweberson Esq.:

Its not gundam breaker 3, and it might be behind on the updates, but its not a buggy broken mess like some other games, and the combat isn't terrible, if anything its about the same as all the other gundam breakers.

Also no this game does not play the same as the past games, it plays like a stripped and barebones shadow of those games that is only cover and no substance and 5 times the repetition as those games were.

[slowjamsliver]

I have never played other Gundam Breaker games, but I've seen some youtube videos of Gundam Breaker 3; that one has a much faster pace, and more skills by the looks of it.

This one reminds me more of the first Dynasty Warriors Gundam with more shooting damage, more minion health, and less melee combos. For me it is the first I've even played, and so long as we get our updates I'll be happy.

[Zeorymer - Battling Cancer]

Publicado originalmente por slowjamsliver:

I have never played other Gundam Breaker games, but I've seen some youtube videos of Gundam Breaker 3; that one has a much faster pace, and more skills by the looks of it.

This one reminds me more of the first Dynasty Warriors Gundam with more shooting damage, more minion health, and less melee combos. For me it is the first I've even played, and so long as we get our updates I'll be happy.

Also my first Gundam game as well, so I'm willing to be open minded about it. Yes, as long as an update comes, I'll be happy as well.

[HeresGwenny]

Publicado originalmente por Außenseiter:

People HATE being pushed out of their comfort zone.
GB1~3 are casual grinding action games, where you just power through mobs and need only to pay attention during boss fights. It's not competitive at all even by PvE standards.

NGB is MOBA-lite i.e. it's built to be competitive, you need to pay attention to what's going on and do specific tasks rather than just kill nearest mobs at your leisure. You're also on the timer and enemy team is dangerous, despite not being boss-type units.
That's a lot of stress and confusion and you can't just button mash your way to win.
People can't handle it.

I think I agree here, I've played 3 and it felt a lot more like dynasty warriors (just mash button until win) while this one seems a lot more objective orientated, though I personally dont think the combat feels that different.

[Ralen]

This game gets hate because the whiners and crybabies wanted GB4 and not this. What they wanted was another poor imitation of Gundam Musou with a never ending grind.

This game is not that, so they instantly were outraged because it wasn’t more of the same. I own GB3: Break Edition. It’s a mediocre game at best, and a boring, repetitive game at worst.

The story is more absurd and over the top. Leveling your gunpla is a pain that quickly becomes tiresome. Having to grind the same handful of maps over and over because gunpla spawns change is a hassle.

The gameplay is superficial with 90% of it being traveling down linear corridors and killing the same cannon fodder. Almost all the boss fights are the same, so they hardly are challenging or interesting.

Not to mention there’s no punishment for losing parts, as they magically reappear on your gunpla moments later. The only thing I would say is “better” about GB3: Break Edition is that it has more gunpla currently, but NGB will soon surpass it.

That’s not to say that NGB is a flawless game, but it’s much more objective-oriented and not brain dead, it’s more competitive and the maps are larger and more open. There’s also risk in losing gunpla parts as you either have to pick them back up or use new ones.

But again, this game isn’t getting hate because it’s worse than its predecessors. It’s getting hate because of over-privileged and entitled fans that can’t handle a soft reboot to what has always been a mediocre franchise.

I only wish BN was doing a better job in terms of the content updates post-release.

[Adachi Ame]

Publicado originalmente por Kamille Bidan:

This game gets hate because the whiners and crybabies wanted GB4 and not this. What they wanted was another poor imitation of Gundam Musou with a never ending grind.

This game is not that, so they instantly were outraged because it wasn’t more of the same. I own GB3: Break Edition. It’s a mediocre game at best, and a boring, repetitive game at worst.

The story is more absurd and over the top. Leveling your gunpla is a pain that quickly becomes tiresome. Having to grind the same handful of maps over and over because gunpla spawns change is a hassle.

The gameplay is superficial with 90% of it being traveling down linear corridors and killing the same cannon fodder. Almost all the boss fights are the same, so they hardly are challenging or interesting.

Not to mention there’s no punishment for losing parts, as they magically reappear on your gunpla moments later. The only thing I would say is “better” about GB3: Break Edition is that it has more gunpla currently, but NGB will soon surpass it.

That’s not to say that NGB is a flawless game, but it’s much more objective-oriented and not brain dead, it’s more competitive and the maps are larger and more open. There’s also risk in losing gunpla parts as you either have to pick them back up or use new ones.

But again, this game isn’t getting hate because it’s worse than its predecessors. It’s getting hate because of over-privileged and entitled fans that can’t handle a soft reboot to what has always been a mediocre franchise.

I only wish BN was doing a better job in terms of the content updates post-release.

So how bout you start stating your opinion on things rather than meager attempts at trying to state your opinions as "facts"

Cause otherwise, all I see is paragraphs that say nothing but opinions? Until you realize and start treating people as people, and respect others, you will never be taken seriously.

Especially with all that misinformation, you don't do research before you write or speak, do you? Every point I have stated I can directly source, you on the otherhand, are a sad individual being the whiner that are complaining that others have valid critues on this shallow and flawed game.

Grow up, and actually listen to people, not have it go out one ear and out the other like your head is hollow void or something.

This is the fact of the matter, NGB is a flawed, shallow, and contradictory game. That is a fact, and no amount of rebuttles, lies, or misinformation that comes out of your mouth will change that.

[Adachi Ame]

Publicado originalmente por Kamille Bidan:

But again, this game isn’t getting hate because it’s worse than its predecessors. It’s getting hate because of over-privileged and entitled fans that can’t handle a soft reboot to what has always been a mediocre franchise.

So... where's the point you start revealing that everything you have said has always been your opinion? Cause that is EVERY SINGLE THING that has come out of your mouth. Opinions this, opinions that, seriously this is just getting sad at this point.

You are a person who is so insecure about what you find you like that you can't handle the facts of the world so you take the route of "I reject your reality with my own!" And that I can cite and source every single case of this, but than it would probably go upwards into the hundreds of posts.

Run and run away from the facts all you want, you are just a kid that never wants to admit you are wrong in this. And that is the core of all of this, isn't it? You don't want to be wrong.
Being wrong is not a sin, it's something to learn from and become a better person from.

This stubborness of never admitting when one is wrong, this doesn't allow you to connect with others, but maybe that is another thing you might be running away from.

[Armadillo]

Publicado originalmente por Adachi Ame:

So... where's the point you start revealing that everything you have said has always been your opinion?

Considering your attitude in this thread, I think you should be asking yourself that one.

[Adachi Ame]

Publicado originalmente por Armadillo:

Publicado originalmente por Adachi Ame:

So... where's the point you start revealing that everything you have said has always been your opinion?

Considering your attitude in this thread, I think you should be asking yourself that one.

Ignorence is bliss, you need to do the research on this. If you did, you would know what I'm talking about. You say attitude, when it's more so, I'm done dealing with Kamille's bs and disrespectful attitude after trying to be polite with them this whole time on this board.(Relatively speaking)

[HeresGwenny]

Publicado originalmente por Adachi Ame:

Publicado originalmente por Armadillo:

Considering your attitude in this thread, I think you should be asking yourself that one.

Ignorence is bliss, you need to do the research on this. If you did, you would know what I'm talking about. You say attitude, when it's more so, I'm done dealing with Kamille's bs and disrespectful attitude after trying to be polite with them this whole time on this board.(Relatively speaking)

I mean couldn't it be said what you said is just your opinion aswell? I didn't ask for a fight here I was just wondering why there was so much hate. It might not be worth $60 to you but personally I feel I've gotten my moneys worth espicielly considering to import a physical copy of gundam breakers its about $70. I bought it pretty quickly after release and it didn't seem that broken, so it's good to see that the game got fixed that quickly. The grind feels about the same as it did in the previous games, I've gotten the models that I want pretty quickly if I focus getting their parts and depositing them in the weird bin thing (I'll admit that parts frustrating as hell, I just want my parts I don't want to lose them because the entire enemy team is focusing me.) I don't think the game deserves AS MUCH hate as it's getting. It definitely has its flaws, any game does, but its not the dumpster fire a lot of people seem to be making it out to be, and a lot of the flaws that have been listed are flaws the previous games have as well.

[Adachi Ame]

Publicado originalmente por Rev. Dr. Gwebby Gweberson Esq.:

Publicado originalmente por Adachi Ame:

Ignorence is bliss, you need to do the research on this. If you did, you would know what I'm talking about. You say attitude, when it's more so, I'm done dealing with Kamille's bs and disrespectful attitude after trying to be polite with them this whole time on this board.(Relatively speaking)

I mean couldn't it be said what you said is just your opinion aswell? I didn't ask for a fight here I was just wondering why there was so much hate. It might not be worth $60 to you but personally I feel I've gotten my moneys worth espicielly considering to import a physical copy of gundam breakers its about $70. I bought it pretty quickly after release and it didn't seem that broken, so it's good to see that the game got fixed that quickly. The grind feels about the same as it did in the previous games, I've gotten the models that I want pretty quickly if I focus getting their parts and depositing them in the weird bin thing (I'll admit that parts frustrating as hell, I just want my parts I don't want to lose them because the entire enemy team is focusing me.) I don't think the game deserves AS MUCH hate as it's getting. It definitely has its flaws, any game does, but its not the dumpster fire a lot of people seem to be making it out to be.

Cept half of what I've said isn't opinions, but facts, it does deserve the hate it gets, because it essentially is the Metal Gear Survive of the Breaker Series. Also erm importing GB3 is about say $45 ish so um I'm wondering where that statement of 70 comes from.

[bluelyre]

Most of my issues stem from the lack of suit customization with abilities being completely tied to EX skills and Option skills not existing at all.

in GB3,

• EX skills were tied to weapons unless they were awakening abilities like Trans-am, NT-D, or EXAM, and all EX attacks could eventually be mastered and used with any weapon/part. (but until then you had to have the correct parts equipped to use them.)
  
• Builders parts were actually usable as more than accessories and stat increases, and many of the armor pieces and weapons doubled as option equipment with their own attacks.
  
• You could have twelve Option Equipment at a time (these were mapped to the Dpad.)
  
• Some armor pieces and weapons came with multiple weapons built in. ((For instance: Exia and 00 quan[t]'s swords also had their beam rifle forms if you used them as melee weapons; you didn't have to get the part twice for each weapon type.)
  
• You could buy full kits for mobile suits, you didn't have to buy each part individually.
  
• Actual gameplay flowed better than what we have here late game, and lock-on was actually useful.
  
• All option parts and ex abilities were available at the start of a mission, except for transformations. (this was largely because GB3 is purely single player)
  
• melee weapons had multiple possible animation sets, and ranged weapons could have multiple attack types.
  
• being attacked by random players during missions was kind of cool.
  
• There was a NG+ with harder difficulty
  
  That isn't to say that GB3 was without problems.
  
• The stat system was grindy and kind of pointless. (but it was a bit of cathartic for me once i started getting legendary parts.)
  
• Combining equipment for extra stat modifiers was mostly fluff, but was borderline absurd late game due to a lack of stat caps.
  
• The idea of having elemental weapons was neat, but pointless.
  
• Having rate-up locations for appear randomly for mobile suits did break monotony, but the levels were overly long often consisting of three zones.
  
• This game also had stunlock problems with certain weapons.
  
• melee and ranged weapons having random attack types really just made the game more grindy.
  
• random mook mobile suits were mostly filler and worthless.
  
• The objective system was poorly executed.
  
• The random players had a limited set of suits, and only happened during specific points in missions.
  
• NG+ was ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.
  
  (I kinda liked the story in GB3, but it was mostly ironically. I won't mention it.)
  
  In this game:
  
• All abilities are tied to EX slots, we don't get option equipment, but we do get 4 more slots.
  
• All pieces have at least one ability tied to it.
  
• There is no parts leveling, everything is plug and play.
  
• All builders parts have been reduced to trait-like stat boosts (I have no idea why, they could have worked as EX actions if the devs put two and two together.)
  
• Option equipment is gone, replaced with the in-game part swapping system.
  
• All EX abilities are locked at the start, and are randomly unlocked as the game progresses.
  
• Restricting all combat to a single arena makes gameplay flow faster, which is better i think?
  
• Most of the Objectives in the system do promote competition.
  as for problems this game has:
  
  
• Tying EX actions to armor pieces means all of them must have at least one; as an effect most of them are exactly the same.
  
• builders parts have detrimental effects that are often worse than the benefit.
  
• No parts leveling or improving means that there is no sense of progression in single player beyond the amount of parts you have.
  
• part swapping system breaks gameplay flow due to encouraging players to try to pick up the parts they lost instead of promoting aggression.
  
• Locking EX abilities and randomly awarding them sounds good on paper, but instead slows the start of combat and bases potential victory on the roll of a dice for PVP.
  
• No parts mastery means you have to use a specific part to use the abilities you like.
  
• There are mobs in 3v3 pvp.
  
• Several of the objectives serve as little more than filler.
  
• No NG+
  
  
  There's most definitely more i could add, but this is what i came up with off the top of my head.
  
  (Story was okay, but kinda there. except for shion's story line. for shion reasons.)

[HeresGwenny]

Publicado originalmente por Adachi Ame:

Publicado originalmente por Rev. Dr. Gwebby Gweberson Esq.:

I mean couldn't it be said what you said is just your opinion aswell? I didn't ask for a fight here I was just wondering why there was so much hate. It might not be worth $60 to you but personally I feel I've gotten my moneys worth espicielly considering to import a physical copy of gundam breakers its about $70. I bought it pretty quickly after release and it didn't seem that broken, so it's good to see that the game got fixed that quickly. The grind feels about the same as it did in the previous games, I've gotten the models that I want pretty quickly if I focus getting their parts and depositing them in the weird bin thing (I'll admit that parts frustrating as hell, I just want my parts I don't want to lose them because the entire enemy team is focusing me.) I don't think the game deserves AS MUCH hate as it's getting. It definitely has its flaws, any game does, but its not the dumpster fire a lot of people seem to be making it out to be.

Cept half of what I've said isn't opinions, but facts, it does deserve the hate it gets, because it essentially is the Metal Gear Survive of the Breaker Series. Also erm importing GB3 is about say $45 ish so um I'm wondering where that statement of 70 comes from.

1. released broken beyond acceptable levels. 2. Charged the price of $60 game. 3. Has VERY little depth to the game. 4. Is far more grindy to the point af heavy repetition. 5. Fails at even trying to do what it wanted to do. 6. Overall the game is really lackluster.

Those are your "facts". In the same post you said you owned this game longer than most, which you said was "June 22nd". It came out on PC on Sept 24th. It may have been a buggy release on consoles, but on PC it didn't really seem to have any issues. I personally think that a game being released buggy and then fixed shouldn't be a con, and you do, so thats an opinion. Your issue with $60 isn't exactly a flaw unless you feel you didn't get your moneys worth, which I feel I did, but since you didn't you're trying to pass it off as a con. All the previous gundam breakers have felt... pretty much the same grind wise, and all are lackluster in their own ways. Personally from what I've seen though you've come off just as hostile and opininated as anyone else. My statement about the $50 I paid on amazon for a physical copy+$20 of shipping. It's definitely a bit harsh to call it the metal gear survive of the series since well, all the gundam breakers feel about the same. The biggest difference, and biggest con I feel with this one is builder parts not adding new abilities. I missed adding 50 missile pods to my mech and firing 1 MIWWION missiles at everyone.