Freddy Fazbear's Pizzeria Simulator

Freddy Fazbear's Pizzeria Simulator

The Security Puppet Minigame Was Not Literally How the Puppet was Possessed
This isn't wishful thinking, I have solid evidence that this is the case:
Take a look at the security puppet minigame again:

The premise is simple: 3 children have locked Henry's daughter outside. Puppet can't intervene because Puppet had a box put on top of its box, trapping it inside.[preview.redd.it]

Now let's play spot the difference![preview.redd.it]

Every other shot in Henry's video is perfectly accurate to the games in question. It takes more effort for Scott to alter the scene rather than just remove the scanlines from the original image. Not only is there a third child, but most condemningly THERE IS NOTHING ON THE PUPPET'S BOX!

The entire conflict, the very reason why The Security Puppet couldn't get to her in time is GONE!

Why would Scott deliberately leave out such an important detail?

Well...maybe it's not so important at all. Almost as if the whole concept of the Security Puppet...isn't actually as true as we thought. But it is true. It's true metaphorically.

Now let's combine this with the fact that Security Puppet is kinda a flawed concept in general:
Think about it.

It only keeps watching over a single child. Why not have it stop any child wearing any bracelet from reaching the exit?

It's not a puppet. It clearly has no strings attached-they would have stopped it from going outside to search.

The sophistication of the Security Puppet, especially since it wasn't possessed, is quite mind-boggling. For comparison, in that same restaurant is Fredbear.
The player, who is controlling the puppet in this game, probably doesn't think twice about it, only thinking about how they, the actual person, would act: escape the box, save the girl.
Unlike Fredbear in taking Cake To The Children, who mindlessly goes about his task even as the player futilely tries to move him in the soon-to-be puppet's direction, the puppet functions like a person.
And that is probably our first clue that the puppet is a person-or represents one, at least.

And that's my argument for why the security puppet represents Henry.

I'll set the scene for you: Henry was working late one night. The one person he was supposed to watch, not because he was programmed to, but because she was his, unattended for a moment (symbolized by the box on the puppet)

Henry looks back just in time to see some bullies locking her outside for a cheap laugh. He sees her being grabbed by someone in the dark but he can't see clearly enough to tell who it is, (symbolized by the unhappy, struggling girl slowly fading away despite clearly wanting to be let back in.)

He rushes out of the restaurant, so full of worry and distress that he loses all composure (symbolized by the puppet breaking down in the rain), and finally collapses over his little girl's lifeless body.

It explains the conspicuous differences in the scene in the true ending, it makes more sense than the security puppet.

What do you guys think?
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Nasus Dec 11, 2022 @ 11:44am 
Dude stop overcomplicating s h i t, Scott just used another image to represent the scene, while your fanfic at the end is well written, that actually raises the question as how Puppet got possessed by Charlie if the animatronic wasn't actually there in the first place.
Amazingspore1026 Dec 11, 2022 @ 2:40pm 
Originally posted by Merlohn:
Dude stop overcomplicating s h i t, Scott just used another image to represent the scene, while your fanfic at the end is well written, that actually raises the question as how Puppet got possessed by Charlie if the animatronic wasn't actually there in the first place.
He created a new scene with key differences when he could have just reused the old one without the scanlines? Why would he do that?
Nasus Dec 12, 2022 @ 8:30am 
Originally posted by Amazingspore1026:
Originally posted by Merlohn:
Dude stop overcomplicating s h i t, Scott just used another image to represent the scene, while your fanfic at the end is well written, that actually raises the question as how Puppet got possessed by Charlie if the animatronic wasn't actually there in the first place.
He created a new scene with key differences when he could have just reused the old one without the scanlines? Why would he do that?
He didn't create another scene, that's just one of the same ones we see but without the game filter, the other scenes have the filter probably because he didn't have the original sprites anymore, so he just screenshoted the old games.
76561199228277550 Dec 12, 2022 @ 9:00am 
it makes sense,tbh
Amazingspore1026 Dec 12, 2022 @ 9:15am 
Originally posted by Supermarioblue64:
it makes sense,tbh
Hey, thanks!
Amazingspore1026 Dec 12, 2022 @ 9:39am 
Originally posted by Merlohn:
Originally posted by Amazingspore1026:
He created a new scene with key differences when he could have just reused the old one without the scanlines? Why would he do that?
He didn't create another scene, that's just one of the same ones we see but without the game filter, the other scenes have the filter probably because he didn't have the original sprites anymore, so he just screenshoted the old games.
If you click the links I provided above you'll see that there are definitely differences in the above images. If you don't feel comfortable clicking links, just examine the Security Puppet minigame and the true ending to see what I mean.
Nasus Dec 12, 2022 @ 11:04am 
Originally posted by Amazingspore1026:
Originally posted by Merlohn:
He didn't create another scene, that's just one of the same ones we see but without the game filter, the other scenes have the filter probably because he didn't have the original sprites anymore, so he just screenshoted the old games.
If you click the links I provided above you'll see that there are definitely differences in the above images. If you don't feel comfortable clicking links, just examine the Security Puppet minigame and the true ending to see what I mean.
I see what you mean, but if what you said is true, then how does Puppet got possessed if Charlie wasn't nearby, we know that Wlliam couldn't possibly just inject Remnant in the animatronic since Charlie was his first victim, he would only discover Remnant and its science many years later
Amazingspore1026 Dec 12, 2022 @ 11:28am 
Originally posted by Merlohn:
Originally posted by Amazingspore1026:
If you click the links I provided above you'll see that there are definitely differences in the above images. If you don't feel comfortable clicking links, just examine the Security Puppet minigame and the true ending to see what I mean.
I see what you mean, but if what you said is true, then how does Puppet got possessed if Charlie wasn't nearby, we know that Wlliam couldn't possibly just inject Remnant in the animatronic since Charlie was his first victim, he would only discover Remnant and its science many years later
Clearly that means we don't know as much about possession as we thought. Henry suggests it was her willpower that kept her on earth. The murder victim who possesses Golden Freddy was able to possess his animatronic without any contact or assistance.
Nasus Dec 12, 2022 @ 11:47am 
Originally posted by Amazingspore1026:
Originally posted by Merlohn:
I see what you mean, but if what you said is true, then how does Puppet got possessed if Charlie wasn't nearby, we know that Wlliam couldn't possibly just inject Remnant in the animatronic since Charlie was his first victim, he would only discover Remnant and its science many years later
Clearly that means we don't know as much about possession as we thought. Henry suggests it was her willpower that kept her on earth. The murder victim who possesses Golden Freddy was able to possess his animatronic without any contact or assistance.
No, we know that possession can happen in 2 ways:
The first is dying side by side with an animatronic after a painful death (which creates Agony in said object)
The second one is by injecting remnant into an object, making it possessed

In your theory Charlie died in a way that makes impossible for her to be connected with Puppet, "I should have known you wouldn't be content to disappear, not my daughter." is just a way of Henry to say that his daughter is determinated enough not to give up in life (like in the novels), it's not meant to say that that's the way she "revived"

Honestly dude your theory doesn't answer any questions and only makes the lore way more complicated than it should be, that's my problem with you theorists nowadays, instead of answering existing questions from the past you just make a headcanon and try to put it inside the lore by distorcing the facts and looking for every tiny s h i t Scott put in his games, Mr Hippo already warned us about this kind of behavior and look where we are now.
Amazingspore1026 Dec 12, 2022 @ 12:35pm 
Originally posted by Merlohn:
Originally posted by Amazingspore1026:
Clearly that means we don't know as much about possession as we thought. Henry suggests it was her willpower that kept her on earth. The murder victim who possesses Golden Freddy was able to possess his animatronic without any contact or assistance.
No, we know that possession can happen in 2 ways:
The first is dying side by side with an animatronic after a painful death (which creates Agony in said object)
The second one is by injecting remnant into an object, making it possessed
But we DON'T know that-those are theories. And, yet again, as I said earlier, Golden Freddy appears to have been able to become possessed without any outside help from the marionette.

Honestly dude your theory doesn't answer any questions and only makes the lore way more complicated than it should be, that's my problem with you theorists nowadays, instead of answering existing questions from the past you just make a headcanon and try to put it inside the lore by distorcing the facts and looking for every tiny s h i t Scott put in his games, Mr Hippo already warned us about this kind of behavior and look where we are now

The point of this post was to point out a genuine discrepency in these games, and maybe unlearn some things we had previously taken for granted about possession. We are not overanalyzing Fazbear's Frights or creating a new dream theory here. Sometimes we need to backtrack and reassess what we thought we knew.
Last edited by Amazingspore1026; Dec 12, 2022 @ 12:36pm
Nasus Dec 12, 2022 @ 1:55pm 
Originally posted by Amazingspore1026:
Originally posted by Merlohn:
No, we know that possession can happen in 2 ways:
The first is dying side by side with an animatronic after a painful death (which creates Agony in said object)
The second one is by injecting remnant into an object, making it possessed
But we DON'T know that-those are theories. And, yet again, as I said earlier, Golden Freddy appears to have been able to become possessed without any outside help from the marionette.

Honestly dude your theory doesn't answer any questions and only makes the lore way more complicated than it should be, that's my problem with you theorists nowadays, instead of answering existing questions from the past you just make a headcanon and try to put it inside the lore by distorcing the facts and looking for every tiny s h i t Scott put in his games, Mr Hippo already warned us about this kind of behavior and look where we are now

The point of this post was to point out a genuine discrepency in these games, and maybe unlearn some things we had previously taken for granted about possession. We are not overanalyzing Fazbear's Frights or creating a new dream theory here. Sometimes we need to backtrack and reassess what we thought we knew.
Fair enough :steamthumbsup:
penguinplus Apr 2, 2023 @ 5:31pm 
so it all starts in like the 80s when william does some robot stuff and so he makes robots but his kid gets th bited of a robot so he cryis but he loses it when he sees thing that comes out of kid and he like "i get son" so he try bring son back using remnand or whatev so he kill kid us more robot but even tho he tell doghter dont go robot SHE ANYWAY so she die so he is more sad but his business parter henry ows him dollars so he get mad at him and he was sriving and he sa that his dautr was alone and he kill her and enry know but he doesnt tell because he is good friend but william kill more kids bc he is mean so they get shut down but then henty go to make restraunt without william mad and he want more of that remand stuff so he kill kids in a suit but hery is mad at him and the cops are mad at the dead bodies so they have to shut the down and so when they stuft down they dont now about ther dead bodies still there but they use the robot to make new robot and so they make new restarutn but william son is like "daddy needs to stop" so he goes into the bunker thing to find his daughter and brother but he gets his stuff taken out of his body and some funny roboyt posses him and he isnt dead how? so he goes oside and lives
now michal is outside but he get job and he see new resrad and he get and for like to fix his dad and find his dad but his dad is dead because he died in the suit or something so he ghoes to find him sonow it like 30 yer lter or i think but theres horror attraction and so he goers there get job to find daddy but daddy is animaonick so andm,ibmkont daddy try kill michake but jimichake kill restarunt and dadd but DADY inT DIE so henry make new reatraut again and so he gets all the dead guys tohether from the fire and then BOOM michal and honry make fire abnd they all die and t4heyd THE END
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