Matpat's Mangle dog theory

[TerrapinBoy01]

If he's right about this, what if Mangle became possessed before FNaF 4?
This thing is like 2 theories together, since Dawko's theory is that we play as Michael in FNaF 4, having nightmares after accidentally killing his brother.
BUT. let's get to it. Dog barking sometimes plays during the nights, and Mangle is in the girl's room in the minigames. I think this could be Mangle barking, not sure, but it's possible.

[Sp4rt4n1295]

Mangle wasn’t a thing before FNaF 4 aside from being a toy. It would be impossible for Mangle to be possessed by a dog because the events of the Fruity Maze minigame most likely take place in the first missing children incident where the original five animatronics became haunted, which happens before Mangle as an animatronic existed.

[TerrapinBoy01]

Originally posted by Sp4rt4n1295:

Mangle wasn’t a thing before FNaF 4 aside from being a toy. It would be impossible for Mangle to be possessed by a dog because the events of the Fruity Maze minigame most likely take place in the first missing children incident where the original five animatronics became haunted, which happens before Mangle as an animatronic existed.

True, but why would there be a take apart, put back together Pink Foxy toy if Mangle was originally a normal animatronic?

[Sp4rt4n1295]

Originally posted by TerrapinBoy01:

Originally posted by Sp4rt4n1295:

Mangle wasn’t a thing before FNaF 4 aside from being a toy. It would be impossible for Mangle to be possessed by a dog because the events of the Fruity Maze minigame most likely take place in the first missing children incident where the original five animatronics became haunted, which happens before Mangle as an animatronic existed.

True, but why would there be a take apart, put back together Pink Foxy toy if Mangle was originally a normal animatronic?

Because the toys are most likely what the animatronics are based off of.

[TerrapinBoy01]

Originally posted by Sp4rt4n1295:

Originally posted by TerrapinBoy01:

True, but why would there be a take apart, put back together Pink Foxy toy if Mangle was originally a normal animatronic?

Because the toys are most likely what the animatronics are based off of.

Why would it be a fox head, a metal skull, and a bunch of metal parts if Mangle didn't exist?

[Sp4rt4n1295]

Originally posted by PhantomCube08:

And even so, the Toy Animatronics could have been created and kept in storage for a long time before the actual FNaF 2.

“The idea at first was to repair them...uh, they even started retrofitting them with some of the newer technology, but they were just so ugly, you know? The smell...uh, so the company decided to go in a new direction and make them super kid-friendly.” - Phone Guy, 1987

Judging by this line, I’d say they were created specifically because they couldn’t repair and retrofit the withered animatronics. Meaning they were created after the missing children incident. The idea for their designs probably came from an older toy line of the characters dating back to at least 1983, when we see toy versions of all the Toy animatronics (save for BB). In other words, the figures came first (Mangle’s toy was probably a take-apart-put-back-together toy, explaining why the kids would constantly do that to Mangle, because she was, to them, a giant version of her toy self), then the animatronics’ designs took inspiration from the toys.

Hope this cleared anything up.

[TerrapinBoy01]

Originally posted by Sp4rt4n1295:

Originally posted by PhantomCube08:

And even so, the Toy Animatronics could have been created and kept in storage for a long time before the actual FNaF 2.

“The idea at first was to repair them...uh, they even started retrofitting them with some of the newer technology, but they were just so ugly, you know? The smell...uh, so the company decided to go in a new direction and make them super kid-friendly.” - Phone Guy, 1987

Judging by this line, I’d say they were created specifically because they couldn’t repair and retrofit the withered animatronics. Meaning they were created after the missing children incident. The idea for their designs probably came from an older toy line of the characters dating back to at least 1983, when we see toy versions of all the Toy animatronics (save for BB). In other words, the figures came first (Mangle’s toy was probably a take-apart-put-back-together toy, explaining why the kids would constantly do that to Mangle, because she was, to them, a giant version of her toy self), then the animatronics’ designs took inspiration from the toys.

Hope this cleared anything up.

I just find it weird as to why a toy would have two heads you can put on a bunch of gray/silver parts, it doesn't really make sense. Unless the toy has an endoskeleton, which it doesn't need, and it's definitely not a little figure like the ones outside, it's probably the size of Mangle

[Sp4rt4n1295]

Originally posted by TerrapinBoy01:

Originally posted by Sp4rt4n1295:

“The idea at first was to repair them...uh, they even started retrofitting them with some of the newer technology, but they were just so ugly, you know? The smell...uh, so the company decided to go in a new direction and make them super kid-friendly.” - Phone Guy, 1987

Judging by this line, I’d say they were created specifically because they couldn’t repair and retrofit the withered animatronics. Meaning they were created after the missing children incident. The idea for their designs probably came from an older toy line of the characters dating back to at least 1983, when we see toy versions of all the Toy animatronics (save for BB). In other words, the figures came first (Mangle’s toy was probably a take-apart-put-back-together toy, explaining why the kids would constantly do that to Mangle, because she was, to them, a giant version of her toy self), then the animatronics’ designs took inspiration from the toys.

Hope this cleared anything up.

I just find it weird as to why a toy would have two heads you can put on a bunch of gray/silver parts, it doesn't really make sense. Unless the toy has an endoskeleton, which it doesn't need, and it's definitely not a little figure like the ones outside, it's probably the size of Mangle

Again, Mangle was probably a take-apart-put-back-together toy, endoskeleton and all. Being part of a toy line doesn’t always mean that all the toys are built the same.

[TerrapinBoy01]

Originally posted by Sp4rt4n1295:

Originally posted by TerrapinBoy01:

I just find it weird as to why a toy would have two heads you can put on a bunch of gray/silver parts, it doesn't really make sense. Unless the toy has an endoskeleton, which it doesn't need, and it's definitely not a little figure like the ones outside, it's probably the size of Mangle

Again, Mangle was probably a take-apart-put-back-together toy, endoskeleton and all. Being part of a toy line doesn’t always mean that all the toys are built the same.

I guess so

[TerrapinBoy01]

The withered animatronics were possessed before the FNaF 2 location was open, there are 5 bodies in the Save Them minigame, and if Golden Freddy is the Crying Child, there would only be 4 as Puppet was possessed before all of them. I think the toys are all possessed.

[Sp4rt4n1295]

Originally posted by TerrapinBoy01:

The withered animatronics were possessed before the FNaF 2 location was open, there are 5 bodies in the Save Them minigame, and if Golden Freddy is the Crying Child, there would only be 4 as Puppet was possessed before all of them. I think the toys are all possessed.

Agreed on everything except Crying Child being Golden Freddy. FOXY, GOGOGO shows five children being killed, which is supposed to be the Missing Children Incident, as well as the fact that the FNaF 1 newspaper articles state that there were five missing children. Unless you can prove that the MCI was retconned, I stand by my idea that Crying Child is actually Shadow Freddy. Nightmare (named Shadow Freddy in the files) shows up on Night 7, the night after the cutscene where CC dies, implying that he became Shadow Freddy, and is haunting the nightmares of his older brother, who we play as in FNaF 4 (Michael) and has been doing so since his death, and continues to do so at least until the events of FNaF 1 according to the Survival Logbook.

[TerrapinBoy01]

Originally posted by Sp4rt4n1295:

Originally posted by TerrapinBoy01:

The withered animatronics were possessed before the FNaF 2 location was open, there are 5 bodies in the Save Them minigame, and if Golden Freddy is the Crying Child, there would only be 4 as Puppet was possessed before all of them. I think the toys are all possessed.

Agreed on everything except Crying Child being Golden Freddy. FOXY, GOGOGO shows five children being killed, which is supposed to be the Missing Children Incident, as well as the fact that the FNaF 1 newspaper articles state that there were five missing children. Unless you can prove that the MCI was retconned, I stand by my idea that Crying Child is actually Shadow Freddy. Nightmare (named Shadow Freddy in the files) shows up on Night 7, the night after the cutscene where CC dies, implying that he became Shadow Freddy, and is haunting the nightmares of his older brother, who we play as in FNaF 4 (Michael) and has been doing so since his death, and continues to do so at least until the events of FNaF 1 according to the Survival Logbook.

I agree

[Sp4rt4n1295]

Originally posted by TerrapinBoy01:

Originally posted by Sp4rt4n1295:

Agreed on everything except Crying Child being Golden Freddy. FOXY, GOGOGO shows five children being killed, which is supposed to be the Missing Children Incident, as well as the fact that the FNaF 1 newspaper articles state that there were five missing children. Unless you can prove that the MCI was retconned, I stand by my idea that Crying Child is actually Shadow Freddy. Nightmare (named Shadow Freddy in the files) shows up on Night 7, the night after the cutscene where CC dies, implying that he became Shadow Freddy, and is haunting the nightmares of his older brother, who we play as in FNaF 4 (Michael) and has been doing so since his death, and continues to do so at least until the events of FNaF 1 according to the Survival Logbook.

I agree

We’re on the same page, then. Cool!

[TerrapinBoy01]

Originally posted by Sp4rt4n1295:

Originally posted by TerrapinBoy01:

I agree

We’re on the same page, then. Cool!

Yeah!

[Dany]

Mangle in fnaf 4 ita not a cannon character and scoot confirm this in the “halloween edition”

[TerrapinBoy01]

Originally posted by Dany:

Mangle in fnaf 4 ita not a cannon character and scoot confirm this in the “halloween edition”

I'm not talking about Nightmare Mangle.
I'm talking about Mangle in THE MINIGAMES