The Afton Family - SPOILER WARNING

[Psyanide53]

This is being edited as new information was brought to my attention thanks to a lovely participant of these discussion forums.

Baby is Elizabeth Afton, William Afton's (AKA the Purple Man who now is in Springtrap) daughter. This information is revealed by the Cassette Man, who has yet to be officially named, who addresses her directly by this name.

We know from Sister Location that William Afton also had a son, named Michael Afton, who also became a Purple Man in his own way after being scooped by Baby and shortly inhabited by the Ennard animatronic.

Matt Patt then surmised in his theory that Ballora was imprinted with the spirit of William Afton's wife and the Crying Child from FNAF 4 became another animatronic (Golden Freddy).

The other interesting fact we can gleam from this final cutscene thanks to the help of information given to us by the Cassette Man, is that the Cassette Man's own daughter was the Purple Man's first victim, and that this girl's spirit went on to possess the Puppet, which then "gave gifts and life" to William Afton's other victims.

Some have already begun to speculate that the Cassette man in this Game universe is Henry, and that his daughter that inhabits the Puppet is Charlie.

This can be supported by his statements when he refers to Springtrap in the cutscene as, "old friend" and when referring to his daughter, Charlie, "it is in your nature to protect the innocent".

[Sp4rt4n1295]

Cassette Man isn’t William, he’s someone else (probably the game universe version of Henry from the novels). William is inside Springtrap, who is in the game.

[Freddiest]

Elizabeth is the puppet. remember that William's daughter is in baby and was killed by baby.

[GhostMami]

Originally posted by Jamie:

Elizabeth is the puppet. remember that William's daughter is in baby and was killed by baby.

Elizabeth is Baby the Puppet doesn’t get a human name

[GhostMami]

Elizabeth is Baby William Afton’s daughter, the Cassette Man isn’t a Afton same with his daughter the Puppet who is most likely a version of Charlie

[Lordsofeverythin]

Tfw I disregard it bc u put matpats theory as 100% canon.

[karmaDagger]

Originally posted by Lordsofeverythin:

Tfw I disregard it bc u put matpats theory as cannon.

Matpat's latest theory was mostly canon though, as confirmed by Scott

[Cutest Kenan (They/Them)]

Originally posted by deadlySerpentine:

Originally posted by Lordsofeverythin:

Tfw I disregard it bc u put matpats theory as cannon.

Matpat's latest theory was mostly canon though, as confirmed by Scott

Not mostly, but he was using some of the parts to confirm things, such as 83v87, willvmiketrap

[Psyanide53]

Originally posted by GhostMami:

Elizabeth is Baby William Afton’s daughter, the Cassette Man isn’t a Afton same with his daughter the Puppet who is most likely a version of Charlie

Couple of things here:

1) Elizabeth IS Cassette Man's daughter because Cassette man SAYS that she is his daughter in the final cut scene dialogue.
Elizabeth IS Baby because Cassette man cuts Baby off when she is speaking and directly addresses her by her real name, therefore we know that Baby IS Elizabeth.

2) You say that Baby is William Afton's daughter- this final cut scene now disproves that.
Baby/Elizabeth cannot be the daughter of William Afton, if William Afton (AKA the Purple Man) is currently trapped inside Springtrap.
Baby/Elizabeth cannot be the daughter of William Afton if Cassette Man claims to BE her father in this final cut scene.
The ONLY logical explanation is that Cassette Man is either a William Afton, Sr, or another unnnamed Afton.

3) The fans have long ago agreed that the Universes of the Books and the Games exist in parallel universes and do to intersect or intertwine with one another.

[Psyanide53]

Originally posted by deadlySerpentine:

Originally posted by Lordsofeverythin:

Tfw I disregard it bc u put matpats theory as cannon.

Matpat's latest theory was mostly canon though, as confirmed by Scott

Thank you kind person! <3

Although I'm not a fan of MattPatt myself, primarily for the way that he treats his wife publicly, but as you say he has been recognized by Scott as getting some things right.

[GhostMami]

Originally posted by VittiDubs:

Originally posted by GhostMami:

Elizabeth is Baby William Afton’s daughter, the Cassette Man isn’t a Afton same with his daughter the Puppet who is most likely a version of Charlie

Couple of things here:

1) Elizabeth IS Cassette Man's daughter because Cassette man SAYS that she is his daughter in the final cut scene dialogue.
Elizabeth IS Baby because Cassette man cuts Baby off when she is speaking and directly addresses her by her real name, therefore we know that Baby IS Elizabeth.

2) You say that Baby is William Afton's daughter- this final cut scene now disproves that.
Baby/Elizabeth cannot be the daughter of William Afton, if William Afton (AKA the Purple Man) is currently trapped inside Springtrap.
Baby/Elizabeth cannot be the daughter of William Afton if Cassette Man claims to BE her father in this final cut scene.
The ONLY logical explanation is that Cassette Man is either a William Afton, Sr, or another unnnamed Afton.

3) The fans have long ago agreed that the Universes of the Books and the Games exist in parallel universes and do to intersect or intertwine with one another.

No he never referred to His daughter as Elizabeth he calls Baby that but not his daughter listen to the ending again

[the unknowable one]

but crying child isnt the puppet, and heres an interesting thing, i originally thought crying child was puppet too, but....


remember the beginning and true end of the game for fnaf 6

hand unit mentions cutting corners.

and at the end mentions attoning for past sins.

william afton, accidentally hit and ran a kid, possibly his business partners daughter, in his guilt he cut corners because he felt guilty and paranoid, the cut corners caused him to make mistakes.

remember baby said she had no idea why she kiled aftons daughter she was no longer, herself.

now purple is a color used to cover up an identiy, or show a rotting dead guy in this game.

remember there are 2 types of purple one with black eyes (mike) and one with black eyes and white dots (william)

but heres the thing..... maybe there was a third, because remember "what in the shadows is easily misunderstood in the mind of a child" remember the purple guy easter egg of fnaf 4.

now this new activity book coming out, "was your favorite toy a plastic purple phone"

I dont think we played as micheal in fnaf 4, I think we played through williams childhood.

I think william survived, but was heavily damaged. but still went on to be a fazbear owner.

but who knows, maybe it impaired his driving, and he did it anyway. he knew he shouldnt have but he did.

and all because of that one mistake, he lost his son, and his daughter, and cost the life of a dear friends daughter as well.

and now all he wants to do, is to just let them all rest, and open the depths of hell for the man who caused all of it.... himself.

because of the mistake of his older brother william lost himself, and that got projected onto his own son after he lost his daughter and his wife. albeit in different ways.....and because of that several more kids died as well because of corners HE cut.

[Psyanide53]

Originally posted by GhostMami:

Originally posted by VittiDubs:

Couple of things here:

1) Elizabeth IS Cassette Man's daughter because Cassette man SAYS that she is his daughter in the final cut scene dialogue.
Elizabeth IS Baby because Cassette man cuts Baby off when she is speaking and directly addresses her by her real name, therefore we know that Baby IS Elizabeth.

2) You say that Baby is William Afton's daughter- this final cut scene now disproves that.
Baby/Elizabeth cannot be the daughter of William Afton, if William Afton (AKA the Purple Man) is currently trapped inside Springtrap.
Baby/Elizabeth cannot be the daughter of William Afton if Cassette Man claims to BE her father in this final cut scene.
The ONLY logical explanation is that Cassette Man is either a William Afton, Sr, or another unnnamed Afton.

3) The fans have long ago agreed that the Universes of the Books and the Games exist in parallel universes and do to intersect or intertwine with one another.

No he never referred to His daughter as Elizabeth he calls Baby that but not his daughter listen to the ending again

*Intently listens to the final cut scene again* ..... -_-..... o_o....O_O.... oh....oh my!

I now hear exactly what you mean. Thank you.

This thread will self destruct.... in one hour.

[karmaDagger]

Originally posted by dagonsTendril:

but crying child isnt the puppet, and heres an interesting thing, i originally thought crying child was puppet too, but....

[game shows crying child outside, dead]
[game shows puppet being drawn to crying child]
[doesn't think it's the puppet]

Originally posted by dagonsTendril:

william afton, accidentally hit and ran a kid, possibly his business partners daughter, in his guilt he cut corners because he felt guilty and paranoid, the cut corners caused him to make mistakes.

"Accidentally hit and ran a kid"
You ignore the fact that in the FNaF 2 minigame he got out of his car before the kid was dead, and then killed her.
Also, do you mean mistakes like making robots specifically designed to kill children?? Oh no, totally didn't do that on purpose!

Originally posted by dagonsTendril:

I dont think we played as micheal in fnaf 4, I think we played through williams childhood.

That doesn't make sense, and would imply that William lived with evil robot animals.

[GhostMami]

Originally posted by VittiDubs:

Originally posted by GhostMami:

No he never referred to His daughter as Elizabeth he calls Baby that but not his daughter listen to the ending again

*Intently listens to the final cut scene again* ..... -_-..... o_o....O_O.... oh....oh my!

I now hear exactly what you mean. Thank you.

This thread will self destruct.... in one hour.

there you go

[Darehender]

You guys do realize that this, along with fnaf world, aren't part of the standard canon, but the book canon, right??!?!?