F1 2018
david75sk Sep 26, 2018 @ 9:39am
Overheating tyres - BUG?
So I returned to the career mode and suddenly I have massive tyre overheating problems at Singapore GP, basically I am losing like 4-5 seconds after few laps on ultra softs... WTF? Never had such problem in this game before, even Monaco was OK, and now it is unplayable... Something tells me you introduced nice bug in your recent patches...
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TimeShot Sep 26, 2018 @ 10:15am 
No bug at all, just a wrong combination of setup, driving style, tire choice and AI level.

The softer the compound the more smooth and carefully you have to drive. You can push 2-3 laps on Ultrasoft but then you have to stop pushing or your tires will overheat. On the other side the Medium tire can take much more pushing; it heats up way slower.

I drive with a wheel, so I really can feel the tire limit. Maybe you play with a pad instead and don't have that feeling and push too hard all the time?

I think this is a great feature and makes it more realistic as you have to adapt the driving style during the race.

Happy driving :chiefdesigner:
david75sk Sep 26, 2018 @ 10:26am 
I finished 12 races on 1st place against 90% AI (one DNF due to gearbox failure) and now you are telling me my AI difficulty is too high for my skill.

Completly ignoring the part that this is the only race where I have problem....

let alone this is the first time in history of F1 games when the tyrewear is problem for me.

well not tyrewear, but overheating.
Last edited by david75sk; Sep 26, 2018 @ 10:31am
76561198072590887 Sep 26, 2018 @ 11:21am 
Originally posted by david75sk:
I finished 12 races on 1st place against 90% AI (one DNF due to gearbox failure) and now you are telling me my AI difficulty is too high for my skill.

Completly ignoring the part that this is the only race where I have problem....

let alone this is the first time in history of F1 games when the tyrewear is problem for me.

well not tyrewear, but overheating.
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Last edited by hanna.wald60; Sep 26, 2018 @ 11:24am
david75sk Sep 27, 2018 @ 11:36am 
the mod helped a little, atleast I was able to finish the game on 4th... but I had still no chance
Maya-Neko Sep 27, 2018 @ 1:06pm 
Originally posted by david75sk:
I finished 12 races on 1st place against 90% AI (one DNF due to gearbox failure) and now you are telling me my AI difficulty is too high for my skill.

Completly ignoring the part that this is the only race where I have problem....

let alone this is the first time in history of F1 games when the tyrewear is problem for me.

well not tyrewear, but overheating.

Well, so you're ignoring his parts where he's talking about setups and driving style? Most of overheating comes from a hard suspension setup in combination with an aggressive driving style and this is even more true for a track like Singapore, where tyres cool down very slowly due to the track design. If you're totally refusing to change anything, then nobody can help you.

And also the AI-Setting can still be a part of it. You obviously need to push harder against them than your setup can handle, so you loose to much time against such a high difficulty. If you would for example play at 60 AI, then you might not need to push that hard, resulting in the tyres not overheating that much. And well, nobody is perfect. Some tracks just might not be made for you and as it seems you're not good at driving in Singapore, let alone your poor understandings of tyre management, which is key to be good at this track in the first place.
Last edited by Maya-Neko; Sep 27, 2018 @ 1:07pm
Ollof Sep 28, 2018 @ 3:34am 
Pad users are at a disadvantage as we don't have proper steering, accelleration, and braking curves. It's either 0% 50% or 100% which makes it difficult to manage the temps.
Singapore was clearly a problem for me in practice, I had to spend all of P2 in realtime tweaking the setup and driving as many laps as possible on a full fuel tank.
The solution is to drive carefully, brake early and use as little turn in as possible and the tyres shouldn't be overheating at singapore if the setup is right. I went the whole race without overheating, except for the last couple of laps when I thrashed the last of the tyres out. Avoid using the hypers as well as they require extreme management.
It's a frustrating mechanic but it needs to work so that wheel users suffer if they are too agressive, i'm sure codemasters can do something about it but that's a debate for another time.
Maya-Neko Sep 28, 2018 @ 12:52pm 
Originally posted by Ollof:
Pad users are at a disadvantage as we don't have proper steering, accelleration, and braking curves. It's either 0% 50% or 100% which makes it difficult to manage the temps.

xbox- and ps-controllers are definitely capable of reaching the full scale of 0% up to 100% without any gaps for accelleration, braking and steering. So if you're using this and not just some cheap pads, then it just comes down to your precision. Some drivers are even as good as the top wheel users.

And also don't think, that using a wheel doesn't have any disadvantage. While pad users have problems with high tyre wear at the front, the wheel users have a similar problem with their rear tyre wear most of the time.
Last edited by Maya-Neko; Sep 28, 2018 @ 12:55pm
sfinct Nov 13, 2018 @ 1:39am 
I'm on season 3 in a heavily upgraded Renault and front tyre temps at Singapore is giving me issues for the first time. It seems too artificial not to be a bug. I get the same temps with a very aggressive setup on hypers or a very conservative setup on softs. It make no difference.

I could do qualifying laps for the entire life of ultras in previous seasons, now the carcass reaches 109 before the end of lap 2 and there is no grip, almost like I've lost the front wing entirely.
Maya-Neko Nov 13, 2018 @ 4:36am 
If there's no grip, then you've not enough downforce. I don't know, what "very conservative" means to you, but even without looking at your setup i can tell you, that you propably doesn't fully understand, how setups work.
Last edited by Maya-Neko; Nov 13, 2018 @ 4:37am
sfinct Nov 26, 2018 @ 6:31pm 
Originally posted by Maya:
If there's no grip, then you've not enough downforce. I don't know, what "very conservative" means to you, but even without looking at your setup i can tell you, that you propably doesn't fully understand, how setups work.

I'm talking about tyre carcass temps being unmanageable and going through the roof on the same lap with different tyres and with different setups. High tyre temps = no grip.

2 laps with qual fuel loads and setup up and 2 laps with race fuel loads and race setup should be different, but tyre temps hit the wall at the same point on track. Anyone saying that is normal doesn't fully understand how it should work.
Maya-Neko Nov 26, 2018 @ 8:30pm 
Originally posted by gycon:
Originally posted by Maya:
If there's no grip, then you've not enough downforce. I don't know, what "very conservative" means to you, but even without looking at your setup i can tell you, that you propably doesn't fully understand, how setups work.

I'm talking about tyre carcass temps being unmanageable and going through the roof on the same lap with different tyres and with different setups. High tyre temps = no grip.

2 laps with qual fuel loads and setup up and 2 laps with race fuel loads and race setup should be different, but tyre temps hit the wall at the same point on track. Anyone saying that is normal doesn't fully understand how it should work.

I actually do know, how it works and i'm pretty sure, that you underestimate the importance of downforce and tyre overload.

Low fuel weight causes the car to have less downforce, resulting in more tyre heat, when you get slipping tyres and especially when having under-/oversteer. In that case, the energy of acceleration/braking isn't fully absorbed by your car, but also partially by your tyres. You might not be able to notice it directly, but your fuel and energy consumption rate definitely should be higher than when you're driving with a full fuel tank.

And high fuel on the other hand puts more weight on the tyres, which also results in higher temperatures, when you're unable to properly transfer the energy right into your car instead of your tyres.

And depending on what kind of setup you're using, you might balance out these effects, giving you similar problems in both situations.
Last edited by Maya-Neko; Nov 26, 2018 @ 8:30pm
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