Pagan and University

[F.Bolli]

Is there any way to get universities as a pagan religion? Without universities you can't get black powder or compass. I need them for the Royal Achievments and can't trade them, because no one is porducing them.

[Ted Flint]

Nope, you'll need to change religion (press religion icon top-right screen) - either catholic or muslim to get the buildings for end-game goods. Had same issue with Mongols.

[Beefcakes]

The other option is importing them but good luck getting the AI to build those

[Xanth™]

There is no need to change religion (its quite impossible later on, since I'm getting -200% chance because of pagan religion in my realm). Just conquer a region that has a University. Thats what I did while playing as pagan vikings.

The only real problem you have is getting "Fine Art" since you need a Cathedral for that and pagans don't get the "Art Schools" as upgrade for them. Only option for these is to import them from another nation. So keep some friends around, when you conquer Europe and beyond.

[Ted Flint]

Originally posted by Xanth™:

There is no need to change religion (its quite impossible later on, since I'm getting -200% chance because of pagan religion in my realm). Just conquer a region that has a University. Thats what I did while playing as pagan vikings.

The only real problem you have is getting "Fine Art" since you need a Cathedral for that and pagans don't get the "Art Schools" as upgrade for them. Only option for these is to import them from another nation. So keep some friends around, when you conquer Europe and beyond.

In my game (normal difficulty, mongols are pagan), odds to change religion was 9% for catholics and 11% for chiite muslims (bonus for owning Bagdad city). Was lucky it worked the 1st time, but with max realm authority, 18 provinces converted to my culture and pagan religion, well-trained cleric so on.

I suspect something can be fixed in your game if you get -200% chance :) Not saying you play bad, but you can hover the "change religion to catholic or muslim" button to see what is the breakdown making minus points and help to improve the odds. I add a screenshot to show my state before trying to change religion.

https://ibb.co/TB43Z2C

[Lichelord Godfrey]

Originally posted by F.Bolli:

Is there any way to get universities as a pagan religion? Without universities you can't get black powder or compass. I need them for the Royal Achievments and can't trade them, because no one is porducing them.

just conquer a province that has a university and you're good to go.

the Pagan "Age of Triumph" kingdom advantage is there to make it easier to hold onto provinces that have buildings that are of other religions, even.