Knights of Honor II: Sovereign

Knights of Honor II: Sovereign

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2ak Nov 21, 2022 @ 6:01pm
Date in-game
Watching the livestream I couldn’t spot any indication of time pass in the world or show of current date (month, year..). Is there no such thing in the game?

I hope it is somewhere there in the UI and I just missed it.. This game being historical, it would be odd to omit such details..
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Heraclius Caesar Nov 21, 2022 @ 6:08pm 
Originally posted by 2ak:
Watching the livestream I couldn’t spot any indication of time pass in the world or show of current date (month, year..). Is there no such thing in the game?

I hope it is somewhere there in the UI and I just missed it.. This game being historical, it would be odd to omit such details..

I was just watching and thinking the same thing. There wasn't a current date in KoH but I was hoping there would be in this
cmeier Nov 21, 2022 @ 6:49pm 
The dev stream 8 days ago showed the nation selector screen, it was taken down either by THQ or Twitch. There is a 1224 start date, although the map isnt fully historical. Skip to 5:00 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d9ATyhWnaA4
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TangSuijin Nov 21, 2022 @ 6:51pm 
after selecting one of the three eras, there is no further time in game. no years passing or such.
Heraclius Caesar Nov 21, 2022 @ 9:48pm 
Originally posted by Tang Suijin:
after selecting one of the three eras, there is no further time in game. no years passing or such.

That's a shame. Hopefully they'll consider adding something like that down the road
TangSuijin Nov 21, 2022 @ 10:41pm 
Originally posted by Heraclius Caesar:
Originally posted by Tang Suijin:
after selecting one of the three eras, there is no further time in game. no years passing or such.

That's a shame. Hopefully they'll consider adding something like that down the road
why though?
Heraclius Caesar Nov 21, 2022 @ 10:57pm 
Originally posted by Tang Suijin:
Originally posted by Heraclius Caesar:

That's a shame. Hopefully they'll consider adding something like that down the road
why though?

Because it's an immersive feature?
TangSuijin Nov 21, 2022 @ 11:26pm 
Originally posted by Heraclius Caesar:
Originally posted by Tang Suijin:
why though?

Because it's an immersive feature?
in what's essentially a sandbox? and what? year 3000 we still fighting with swords?
TangSuijin Nov 21, 2022 @ 11:39pm 
Originally posted by Tang Suijin:
Originally posted by Heraclius Caesar:

Because it's an immersive feature?
in what's essentially a sandbox? and what? year 3000 we still fighting with swords?

edit: but if you're really set on it. the game will be mod friendly so someone might do it
Kukurutz  [developer] Nov 22, 2022 @ 1:40am 
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This is even one of the trademarks of Knights of Honor: The game is a historical sandbox game, after you choose a start date and start a campaign, history will be completely rewritten and years don't mean anything anymore.
sliding teflon bot Nov 22, 2022 @ 1:49am 
Backstory: After a meteor hit the Earth in the year of the lord [start date], Europe as a whole was catapulted into space. Blissfully ignorant, the kings and peasants of their time continued in their old ways, never discovering the likes of gunpowder or virtual reality devices. -- Immersive enough?
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2ak Nov 22, 2022 @ 3:12am 
Originally posted by Kukurutz:
This is even one of the trademarks of Knights of Honor: The game is a historical sandbox game, after you choose a start date and start a campaign, history will be completely rewritten and years don't mean anything anymore.

Thank you very much for your time and response and for making this modern sequel to an iconic game. I also wish you a great and successful release and a long support period.
I have been looking forward to this game release for a very long time and I am very excited it is finally around the corner!

Regarding the historical sandbox take, I respectfully disagree.

Imho, the dates that mark our actions would not take from the sandbox feel whatsoever.. But would just mark our milestones and memorable moments. It would also add meaning to the aging of characters. This game has gone for a substantial depth and dates would only add to it.

For instance, Total War and CK are two game series that are often compared with this upcoming KOH2 game and both are sandbox historical and have dates and time pass that does not stand in the way of the sandbox nature of these games.

I totally believe that it would be a development, an upgrade to the KOH series rather than a hindrance and would not affect the sandbox of the game but rather add more substance and immersion.

I would genuinely love to see it added by the dev team or modding community.
2ak Nov 22, 2022 @ 3:16am 
Originally posted by Tang Suijin:
Originally posted by Heraclius Caesar:

Because it's an immersive feature?
in what's essentially a sandbox? and what? year 3000 we still fighting with swords?

I mean it is hard to hit those years in a game where you would have days, weeks and months passing.. It worked totally fine with series like CK and Total War or even M&B. But if you are set to be stuck in that thought, how not having dates help the situation?
Last edited by 2ak; Nov 22, 2022 @ 3:18am
2ak Nov 22, 2022 @ 5:47am 
Originally posted by sliding teflon bot:
Backstory: After a meteor hit the Earth in the year of the lord [start date], Europe as a whole was catapulted into space. Blissfully ignorant, the kings and peasants of their time continued in their old ways, never discovering the likes of gunpowder or virtual reality devices. -- Immersive enough?

? You are thinking to play that long into a campaign? There is end game and win conditions you know? In your case, knowing the time would be very helpful rather than playing in a universe where time pass is non existent.. At least it’ll give you an idea of how many years it took you to paint all that map! Unlikely you’ll hit the age of virtual reality devices as well if that helps :).
Brighten up fellow gamer, people are different.. While you find time pass showing your progress immersion breaking, others find it immersive..
Last edited by 2ak; Nov 22, 2022 @ 5:49am
PrimeDirector Nov 22, 2022 @ 10:50am 
I'd also appreciate the date to bring more immersion and meaning to the gameplay (for example, how does my nation play out by 1300 vs. where it was historically? These kind of small details can be fun) ; hopefully a mod will be available soon.
Heraclius Caesar Nov 22, 2022 @ 11:09am 
Originally posted by Tang Suijin:
Originally posted by Heraclius Caesar:

Because it's an immersive feature?
in what's essentially a sandbox? and what? year 3000 we still fighting with swords?

Come on man are you serious with this? Have you never played a Crusader Kings or Total War game where a current date is shown? Obviously it wouldn't go to the year 3000 there would be a realistic end date.

Wild how some people want to play dumb about this.
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