Level Island-11: Prison

[eve!]

Am I just completely missing something? How would you ever create a win condition in this level?

Picture for reference: https://i.imgur.com/BpXG9Ws.png

[Step Kick Kick Leap Kick Touch]

Did you try making yourself both Keke and Baba?

[eve!]

Originally posted by Step Kick Kick Leap Kick Touch:

Did you try making yourself both Keke and Baba?

I'm not really sure what that would accomplish.

[Step Kick Kick Leap Kick Touch]

Try doing that, making enough space for both of them to fit in the separate corners where "Wall is Stop is", and move up/down or down/up.

[eve!]

Someone actually helped me figure this out, so I'll throw it up here for anyone else who's lost:

Minor hint: Baba can push text so that it overlaps Baba.
Major hint: Keke is Baba, then [Baba] Wall is Stop [Baba].

[Vex]

Thanks for the hints. Loving the game, but this is the only level so far that felt like the solution depends on knowing an interaction without teaching you first. Almost every other "mechanic" had at least one easy tutorial-ish level where you couldn't help but interact with a new mechanic to make sure you understand it before moving on. Frustrating.

[Mar Hepto]

The main way of solving it, as far as I can tell, doesn't involve turning keke into baba (although ofc that does work!)
you just need to notice that text and all other objects can overlap with an object that isn't defined, so have baba push WALL or STOP over keke while keke isn't anything, then take control of keke and push the rest of the WALL IS STOP rule away to break it.

[Somescout]

Originally posted by Vex:

Thanks for the hints. Loving the game, but this is the only level so far that felt like the solution depends on knowing an interaction without teaching you first. Almost every other "mechanic" had at least one easy tutorial-ish level where you couldn't help but interact with a new mechanic to make sure you understand it before moving on. Frustrating.

Same here. There is no hint in levels before that this is possible that way.

[eierharfe]

But the solution was really not involvoving any new concept. We have learned it all before: If something is not push or stop, you can just move any tile upon it. So of course you can move a text block over Keke or Baba. Why wouldn't you?

My favourite level so far. I am still trying to understand why I wasn't able to figure it out without any hint...

[Mitornimo]

I had a major issue with this one... unlike most tutorials... I only had KiKi, BaBa Is You, and a push.... I was able to solve it once I understood what needed to be done. But I didnt have a second is.... or the move

[Mar Hepto]

Originally posted by Mitornimo:

I had a major issue with this one... unlike most tutorials... I only had KiKi, BaBa Is You, and a push.... I was able to solve it once I understood what needed to be done. But I didnt have a second is.... or the move

The move and is blocks present in the original version of the level were removed in an update to better convey the level's goals.

[uKER]

I agree that the difficulty is pretty overwhelming.
I got to that point without looking at any hints and would have probably given up if I hadn't seen the solution here.

That said, I'm curious, how is everyone talking about turning Keke into Baba, or controlling Both Keke and Baba? Sure you're not talking about Dungeon, and not Prison?

[Patashu]

Originally posted by uKER:

I agree that the difficulty is pretty overwhelming.
I got to that point without looking at any hints and would have probably given up if I hadn't seen the solution here.

That said, I'm curious, how is everyone talking about turning Keke into Baba, or controlling Both Keke and Baba? Sure you're not talking about Dungeon, and not Prison?

Most of the discussion is pre-patch and applies to what is now called 'Dungeon'.

[uKER]

That figures.

[Ɀ𐌀𐌒ℹⲔ✨]

Originally posted by eierharfe:

If something is not push or stop, you can just move any tile upon it.

With such logic every text block should collapse one onto another. Breaking your mind.

[1.2M | Missingno.]

Originally posted by Ɀ𐌀𐌒ℹⲔ✨:

Originally posted by eierharfe:

If something is not push or stop, you can just move any tile upon it.

With such logic every text block should collapse one onto another. Breaking your mind.

TEXT is always PUSH unless another rule says otherwise. One of few innate properties that's not written down, but it kind of has to be for the game to even work.