Is 3 (Ruins) - EX1 (Further Fields) supposed to be so hard?

[NT]

My walkthrough of the level consisted of ordering all three BABAs in a tile-perfect way so KEKE IS YOU is written horizontally (screenshot[pp.userapi.com] taken shortly before forming BABA IS MOVE) which took an obscene amount of time and effort compared to other levels in the first three worlds. Is that the intended solution or did I overlook something?

[inappropriately_gendered_fungus]

I don't think you have to form KEKE IS YOU horizontally. That involves determining the move priority of the Babas and the dev has said that no puzzles require something like that. I'm unsure what the intended solution is, but mine involved arranging text vertically. I don't remember my exact solution.

[NT]

Originally posted by fungusdude4:

I don't think you have to form KEKE IS YOU horizontally. That involves determining the move priority of the Babas and the dev has said that no puzzles require something like that. I'm unsure what the intended solution is, but mine involved arranging text vertically. I don't remember my exact solution.

Thanks. I've searched solutions on the web, and yes, mine is definitely not an intended one.

[inappropriately_gendered_fungus]

Kudos on figuring out how to do that though!

[SquareDildo]

How does arranging it like that help you though? I also did that, but then concluded it's not helpful at all. When you look closer, you won't have words and babas left to do what you're planning to do.

I've found a simpler solution that permits sloppy timing.

[Hempuli]

Further Fields used to be a harder variant of another level, "Baba Fields", which was cut because what it did was done better elsewhere. Further Fields has definitely turned out to be a major stumper, but I hope the Extra status helps with that somewhat.

[NT]

Originally posted by SquareDildo:

How does arranging it like that help you though? I also did that, but then concluded it's not helpful at all. When you look closer, you won't have words and babas left to do what you're planning to do.

Full solution is available here[imgur.com]. In short, I move KEKE IS YOU down, then make a diagonal line of text on the other side.

[NT]

Originally posted by Hempuli:

Further Fields used to be a harder variant of another level, "Baba Fields", which was cut because what it did was done better elsewhere. Further Fields has definitely turned out to be a major stumper, but I hope the Extra status helps with that somewhat.

Yep, even the solution that other people usually go by is hard, but I think its difficulty is still fair. It fully deserves being the only Extra level in the location though.

[eradmis]

This level has over half a dozen wildly varied solutions in terms of setup. Some don't even require all 3 Babas. It's one of the best designed puzzles in the game IMHO.

[Axiomniscion]

Hey man, we think alike! I did the very same thing and was wondering what the intended solution was. Thanks for the post

[Blook]

I solved it by setting up the babas so they would push a broken up "keke is you" and keke across the barrier and then line it back up again on the other side. Basically I kill keke, move him across the line, and ressurect him. Dev said this was the intended solution in a past post.