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uKER Mar 28, 2019 @ 7:51pm
What does "DOOR IS SHUT" mean?
I always see that all doors, in addition to "IS STOP" have "IS SHUT".
Does it do anything?
Originally posted by Lymle Lemuri Phi:
it means that you can open it with something that is "open" when you push said object into the shut one
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Lymle Lemuri Phi Mar 28, 2019 @ 8:19pm 
it means that you can open it with something that is "open" when you push said object into the shut one
uKER Mar 28, 2019 @ 10:50pm 
Thx!

Now that we've established that...
Doors have both "DOOR IS SHUT" and "DOOR IS STOP", and unlocking them with a key that has "KEY IS OPEN" allows you through the door.

Now, in level forest-2 there's two things going on:

1. If you set "WALL IS SHUT" and "KEY IS OPEN", shouldn't approaching the wall with a key destroy the key and allow you to walk through the wall?

2. Here for the first time we encounter a seemingly closed door, but since it doesn't have "DOOR IS STOP" you're allowed through it right from the start. Is this an slipup in the level design or is it intentional?
Last edited by uKER; Mar 28, 2019 @ 10:51pm
Alayric Mar 29, 2019 @ 1:35am 
Yes it's intentional. Keep in mind that things are just graphics and only the rules are relevant. A key, a wall, or a door may not act like what you would expect from them.
vytah Mar 29, 2019 @ 5:28am 
SHUT means it disappears when it touches something that is OPEN.
OPEN means it disappears when it touches something that is SHUT.

So if you have KEY IS SHUT and DOOR IS OPEN, you can get rid of both the key and the door by moving one onto another.
uKER Mar 29, 2019 @ 5:52am 
None of the two answered my first question.
Originally posted by uKER:
1. If you set "WALL IS SHUT" and "KEY IS OPEN", shouldn't approaching the wall with a key destroy the key and allow you to walk through the wall?
Alayric Mar 29, 2019 @ 6:09am 
If you push a key on a wall when KEY IS OPEN and WALL IS SHUT then the wall and the key will be both destroyed.
It won't allow you to "walk through the wall", the wall will be destroyed.
Last edited by Alayric; Mar 29, 2019 @ 6:10am
uKER Mar 29, 2019 @ 6:15am 
Well, it doesn't. You can check Forest-2.
One could argue that it's because WALL IS STOP, but then again doors that have DOOR IS STOP can be opened with the key, so...
Last edited by uKER; Mar 29, 2019 @ 6:16am
Shashakiro Mar 29, 2019 @ 6:45am 
It absolutely does work on that very level, I just tested it. STOP is overridden by the OPEN/SHUT interaction consistently for everything.
Last edited by Shashakiro; Mar 29, 2019 @ 6:45am
uKER Mar 29, 2019 @ 9:27am 
Originally posted by Shashakiro:
It absolutely does work on that very level, I just tested it. STOP is overridden by the OPEN/SHUT interaction consistently for everything.
Good god. I just tried and it worked as expected.
I swear I couldn't get it to work yesterday, fully knowing what was supposed to happen.
Might have had to do with the fact that it was 4 AM.

Thanks for the help.
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