which better this squad 44 than Hell let loose?

[Wolflicious]

hmm more player on Hell let loose

[Blythe]

No, I like the Stamina bar, if they do remove it then they should slow the running speed down, wouldn't want people running at full strength speed all over the map, its unrealistic

[Reinhart]

Different strokes for different folks. S44 for the milsim folks, HLL for the simcade folks. The question is subjective, like which color is better. If you want an experience that rewards slow, methodical, team-based gameplay, then S44 is your answer. If you favor the action of fast-paced shooter then you'll probably prefer HLL.

Having played both games, my experience is that the mechanics of S44 are much more team-oriented. You need team members present to drop rallies (OPs) and you need logi to deliver supplies to build FOBs (garrisons). Sections that don't communicate, suffer for it in the form of attrition and command support. This is a bit of a double edged sword in that leading a section can be mentally taxing which discourages players from doing it.

HLL felt like a soviet soldier simulator where most people were quietly and independently rushing the objective. Charge, shoot, die, respawn. The limited number of tickets in S44 add value to each life (especially when they become scarce) meaning that tactics and medics matter. Matches are often lost or won on attrition.

The stamina and canteen mechanics are intended to slow down the gameplay to align with reality and in my opinion are effective in forcing you to stop and consider your next move (not to mention preventing all players from running around like world-class marathon athletes).

As for server queues, I tend to wait between 1-5 minutes on average, which isn't a barrier for me.

[Newtz]

HLL turned into a battlefield game.. Post Scriptum is turning into HLL. If that makes any sense...
[Of course OWI is probably going to reverse a lot of what the old dev team was doing]

[NitoAndTheFunkyBunch]

Diposting pertama kali oleh ★ Big Fungus:

HLL is way better than this game. I have played 6 hours of HLL and during that time I had more fun on that, than I ever did on this or on squad. In this there was no fun. It's just hide in bush, kill, get killed, respawn and visibility is atrocious. In HLL you can be artillery, you can drive tanks, you drop off supplies using vehicles, you have a more fleshed out build system, there seems to be more teamwork and you don't have long waiting times to respawn. Classes are also better as you have more freedom to choose what you want to be, instead of having a strict class that forces you to be something you don't want to be. The graphics and visuals are a lot better too. It looks almost realistic, even on the lower settings and it isn't CPU heavy. There is reason why HLL has thousands of players and this game only peaks around 800 if you're on a weekend.

The only correct statement in this comment is that HLL is prettier. Its actually incredible how someone can write this many bad takes in one paragraph

[Natural_]

Squad 44 you got free look, and point shooting and to me it makes it feel so much more realistic than HLL. HLL has cheap feeling gunplay to me compared to gunplay of games like Insurgency, squad, and Red orchestra, arma. Also the maps are so much bigger and dont get so bottlenecked I also like the weapons of choice in Squad 44 however theres no loadout or soldier customization like there is in HLL.

[Reitz]

Diposting pertama kali oleh ★ Big Fungus:

HLL is way better than this game. I have played 6 hours of HLL and during that time I had more fun on that, than I ever did on this or on squad. In this there was no fun. It's just hide in bush, kill, get killed, respawn and visibility is atrocious. In HLL you can be artillery, you can drive tanks, you drop off supplies using vehicles, you have a more fleshed out build system, there seems to be more teamwork and you don't have long waiting times to respawn. Classes are also better as you have more freedom to choose what you want to be, instead of having a strict class that forces you to be something you don't want to be. The graphics and visuals are a lot better too. It looks almost realistic, even on the lower settings and it isn't CPU heavy. There is reason why HLL has thousands of players and this game only peaks around 800 if you're on a weekend.

You can build and drive tanks in ps too and guide arty in position pretty hll shill post above..


Also how does a progression which locks you out from weapons a freedom in classes? Thats not freedom when you lock the fun out.. very weird arguments

[Roninman]

Diposting pertama kali oleh ★ Big Fungus:

HLL is way better than this game. I have played 6 hours of HLL and during that time I had more fun on that, than I ever did on this or on squad. In this there was no fun. It's just hide in bush, kill, get killed, respawn and visibility is atrocious. In HLL you can be artillery, you can drive tanks, you drop off supplies using vehicles, you have a more fleshed out build system, there seems to be more teamwork and you don't have long waiting times to respawn. Classes are also better as you have more freedom to choose what you want to be, instead of having a strict class that forces you to be something you don't want to be. The graphics and visuals are a lot better too. It looks almost realistic, even on the lower settings and it isn't CPU heavy. There is reason why HLL has thousands of players and this game only peaks around 800 if you're on a weekend.

Seems you havent even much played this game.
IN Squad 44 you can:
- Be artillery too in part of mortar team
- Be part of logistics team bulding fobs, or setting up antitank batteries
- Drive tanks(you think HLL only you can drive tanks what you talking about)
- Dropping of supplies, in this game even more so
- Build system in HLL pales in comparison to this
- More teamwork, not in HLL a fact. Just funneled objectives
- Waiting times to respawn, in HLL this has resulted as medics being secondary and run&gun kiddos just waiting urgently to hit respawn button
- Classes more freedom in HLL yes, results in everybody being specialised with basic rifleman coming secondary which is battlefield style game
- Environmentals graphics are better in HLL yes, but to medium rendering distance

You obviously trying use all and any reason to make HLL seems superior when almost every point you made has been countered. Onlything that HLL does better is environmental graphics up close and faster type of run & gun action. Nothing more

[Scotty]

Played both depends on what kind of player you are HLL is a more casual approach to Realistic shooter id say WW2 SHooters if you are newer to the genre HLL will be an easier introduction to The genre then PS ore even Squad PS is more Realistic in almost every way The armor is way better better sounddesign and more interesting factions and weapons a plus on HLL part i have to say is Map design and detail they really nailed that part where as PS can feel bland from time to time so it all comes down to what do you prefer and are you looking for a more challeging game /realistic game
Quick disclaimer though both games have their own drama /backstory wich you should read into and meny players will have their own opinions on the matter i for one am glad PS got picked up by new devs and hope they wont drop the game like the last devs

[76561198814108747]

Squad 44 is in every single way a better game than HLL and always has been.

OFI has taken over Post Scriptum (now Squad 44) and have promised to revive the game and bring tons of more content.

[76561198814108747]

Diposting pertama kali oleh MDC:

HLL since it has an actual active playerbase. Squad 44 struggles to top 1.2k players and on a weekend you'll struggle to see more than 5 servers in the browser. HLL consistently hits 9k.

Squad 44 is also full of sweaty try-hards who RP like they've actually served and will rage at your as a beginner if you have the wrong kit. Players think this adds to the "immersion" but all it does is turn away new players. HL community isn't perfect but it's far more welcoming because they don't pretend that their game is the height of mil-sim and don't gatekeep.

Squad 44 will unlikely grow much from it's current position whereas HLL will continue to develop over time. They have the money, they have the players and they will continue to add new content and improve the game.

Most Squad 44 players I've met are actual Vets lol... especially when you get into community servers like EASY, 1.ID etc...

[DirtyGamerTX]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Bo0gi:

When I got Squad back in it’s days in 2015. Where there would only be 1000-2000 players. Just imagine how poorly unoptimized it was. It was so fun to play still. I would say it’s worth trying a shot with S44

This ^^

[O. Sprengmann]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Wolflicious:

hmm more player on Hell let loose

Hmm more listener on Rap and Pop
Hmm more tourist in tourist trap
Hmm more popular religion
Hmm more popular politician
Hmm more player on Hell Let Loose

HMM MORE PLAYER ON COD WWII

Hey, more players in CoD. Go play that? One less squadmate I'd need to kick for taking a specialized role just to have the gun, ignore mics, and ignore the job of the kit they're using. lol

[Aeon]

In current state i`d pick HLL just for having more players - diehard fans love to ♥♥♥♥ on this take, but in my personal experience there are 3-4 servers that are always full and with more that 10 people in queues, while others are either "insert language" only, or with 10-15 players or just empty. so usually i am forced to either sit and do nothing for 30 minutes in queue, or run around in almost empty map for 30 minutes hoping people would join. With HLL having a lot larger playerbase ( as i am writing this, based on steamdb, there are 624 players in squad 44, and 6233 in HLL), there are a lot more servers with large amount of players and smaller queues. so less time doing nothing and more time playing.

[Amber [CatinHat]]

HLL at least for now more updates and at least more news in what is happening.

PS is hard to tell if its really alive or it will be dead again soon.

[Captain n00by]

I tried them both and I liked the gfx in HLL better but PS (Squad 44) had better realism.

For me, HLL was more appealing, but I haven't bought either.

I used to play Red Orchestra 1 and 2 some, but I actually like Day of Defeat (Source) best, which is not aiming for realism at all, but it's a fun team shooter based in WW2.