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A 200 Meter shot from the prone supported or prone unsupported firing position on even a partially exposed man-sized target is an easy shot for even a moderately trained Rifleman. Speaking from many years of experience in modern and historical weaponry. For an expert Rifleman in good physical condition, its not hard at all. The exception is after strenuous physical exertion (such as after a long Bound/Sprung) but a good Rifleman knows how to work through that and still make a clean shot.
No one mentioned ideal conditions. Any fattie can lay in a shooting jacket or sit at range table and shoot decently. Combat conditions are a different matter entirely and must be prepared for. One reason why Physical Fitness is emphasized so much is the ability to perform under the strain of mental and physical stressors. Concerning Marksmanship, high levels of physical exertion most certainly does take its toll on the ability to deliver accurate small arms fires.
This is mitigated by being physically fit and well-trained. Your heart rate, breathing and other symptoms of high levels of physical exertion reduce quicker and a well trained rifleman is taught how to work through this and even pause these things for a very short window in order to finalize the shot process. Muscle memory is another key ingredient to performing under demanding conditions. Physical fitness and training. Otherwise, what is the difference between a Soldier and a guy plucked off the street and simply handed a rifle?
I know more about the German Army in WWII than I do the American Army. The Wehrmacht and especially the Waffen SS trained to a very high level of physical fitness. Many reasons for that, but part of this was due to the above mentioned. Im sure those in Allied armies understood the same. This is still the mindset of any good Infantry Company/Platoon/Squad today.
A well-trained rifleman in good physical condition should have no trouble connecting with a partially exposed man-sized target at 200 meters. The average width of a man is around 20x40 inches. The average infantry rifle of both modern and WWII armies was around 3 minutes of angle, give or take (so about 3 inches at 100 meters, or 6 inches at 200. Again, a rough average).
20x40 inches is a very large target for a trained rifleman, even with iron sights. Even if we cut that in half, 10x20 inches, that is 200 square inches and a very generous radius in which to park a projectile. A decent rifleman, fit and trained, in most circumstances could complete a bound, go to ground, establish a prone unsupported firing position, take aim and engage a stationary target of this size with a 90% hit probability or better on a target. Less on a moving target, but still a high probability.
im highly against no sway/low sway elements because it was ridiculous what you could did before it was implemented.
setup mg -> see enemy -> start firing him -> the guy turns 180 and shoots you while being suppressed..
never again. sway needs to stay.
Oh and another note regarding bolt actions. if you play alot with them you become good with them. so start playing and stop complaining!
i have shooted rifles on my armytime and it isnt that easy what you would think from video games.
I think Dr Storr sums up my point quite well.
“ It appears that a soldier’s ability to hit a given target is typically reduced by a factor of ten or so when he is moved from a static rifle range to a field firing area where he has to select cover, move, shoot and so on. It is reduced by a further factor of ten or so if there is an enemy firing back at him. It is reduced by another factor of ten if the enemy has machine guns, or if he has tanks; and by a hundred if he has both.”
While training does help there are many other factors that you are not considering. Shooting a Stationary target vs a moving target is quite different. Once that adrenaline gets pumping your accuracy prone supported is going down.
Fitness again helps to a point, look at the fitness of current special forces. They still miss and I'm sure that they have spent more time training than any soldier during WW2.
When you move the mouse around, the two ends of the iron sight don't align properly and you have to stop moving for about a second to be able to shoot.
And the difference between range shooting and in the field are night and day.
I do enjoy watching 9 hole reviews on youtube (they have covered almost all the ww2 weapons), now he is an good shot but again under ideal conditions it makes it easier.