Grass/Foliage Not Rendering

[Bullet Force]

I have watched several gameplay videos and its clear that if you tweak your graphics settings you can make it so that foliage and grass doesn't render. A lot of players are taking advantage of this so that they can see enemies that should be in hidden but aren't.


This has happened in other games using the same Unreal Engine but in this game the effect is worse because this game is supposedly mean to be realistic. I get the feeling that this will be yet another game where players on high settings will be penalized and at a distinct disadvantage to those that turn everything to ultra low.

[zerohero]

I would put my money on the foliage being the biggest optimization/glitch problem in the game. Its a competetive style game so i would hope they will fix it before release.

[KripTed]

Had that problem too. I refunded the game though. It doesn't happen to me in other UE games, just this one. It won't be fixed by the time it's released.

[Arizona Ranger]

Ah yes, the greatest classic of realistic shooters is back! Like in the good ol' days of Operation Flashpoint, maximum resolution and lowest graphics almost always win the day. Grass and foliage should NEVER be an option to turn off in realistic shooters UNLESS you are fighting against an AI which (as far as I have seen) ignores everything besides a solid material (like a wall or vehicles) and is thus able to see the player while the player can't see the AI. But if we are talking multiplayer only game then foliage and grass MUST NOT BE AN OPTION TO TURN OFF. If you put that option in you might as well just remove it all together since everybody will disable it to get an advantage over the poor newbie who has no idea about this exploit.

[DumbNumpty]

Originally posted by Mcz:

Ah yes, the greatest classic of realistic shooters is back! Like in the good ol' days of Operation Flashpoint, maximum resolution and lowest graphics almost always win the day. Grass and foliage should NEVER be an option to turn off in realistic shooters UNLESS you are fighting against an AI which (as far as I have seen) ignores everything besides a solid material (like a wall or vehicles) and is thus able to see the player while the player can't see the AI. But if we are talking multiplayer only game then foliage and grass MUST NOT BE AN OPTION TO TURN OFF. If you put that option in you might as well just remove it all together since everybody will disable it to get an advantage over the poor newbie who has no idea about this exploit.

Its probably an extremely easy fix to not allow low settings but also when it comes to unfair advantage we have the enhanced view of the 1440p & 4k crowd have over the 1080p lot.

I turned Distance onto Epic, Effects, Shadows, Foilage to High.
The rest off especially AA as it was extremely hard to spot and differentiate @ distance.
Never tried low and if true then disabling should be easy.

My 1060 3gb managed a pretty constant 55 FPS with the above and at distance I could spot, but at first with this the default settings I was often being hit without having a clue or spot due a fuzziness.
Its not just about low settings as what do we do about the pixel advantage of the high end rigs?

The Devs seem to be making problems themselves by trying to spread far to much over a large range of settings and hardware specs that need to be narrowed.

I think the UE allows a choice between high quality and scalable just with a simple option switch.

[Bullet Force]

Originally posted by Mcz:

Ah yes, the greatest classic of realistic shooters is back! Like in the good ol' days of Operation Flashpoint, maximum resolution and lowest graphics almost always win the day. Grass and foliage should NEVER be an option to turn off in realistic shooters UNLESS you are fighting against an AI which (as far as I have seen) ignores everything besides a solid material (like a wall or vehicles) and is thus able to see the player while the player can't see the AI. But if we are talking multiplayer only game then foliage and grass MUST NOT BE AN OPTION TO TURN OFF. If you put that option in you might as well just remove it all together since everybody will disable it to get an advantage over the poor newbie who has no idea about this exploit.

I agree they should have a certain "competitive" graphics setting which limits how bad you can make your settings for at least a few servers. Maybe they could introduce competitive servers which mandate a certain graphics setting in order to play on them.

[SSIXS]

Originally posted by Bullet Force:

I agree they should have a certain "competitive" graphics setting which limits how bad you can make your settings for at least a few servers. Maybe they could introduce competitive servers which mandate a certain graphics setting in order to play on them.

You might try asking the developers if they've implemented the optional "Tournament Mode" server-side settings from Squad, that establishes a minimum graphics settings requirement for everyone play on the server.