Gundam Barbatos Lupus Rex Alaya-Vijnana Limiter Off

[Queen Hexxa]

I'm trying to figoure out how to get this unit, im assuming its like the ELS Qan[T] where you have to finish the last stage on Extra?

[Willem]

Bingo, last stage of IBO on Extra.

[Queen Hexxa]

Aaand done, sort of a disappointing stage

[Sardorim]

Well, they wanted you to play the losing side for that battle that's why. That and cramming both last battles together on the same stage.

It really should have been you playing as Gjallarhorn and just having you fight Tekkadan, play the event, then have Mikazuki/Barbatos Lupus Rex go Berserk Mode on you with Julieta getting the last hit for a Stage Quest just like the anime.

[Willem]

No, they should've just let you score a win for either team, just pick whether you want to support the canon ending, or go for the other team, would give the player a bit more of a "Mercenary" vibe to them, but then again: If this game was in any way Realistic to the power of the series, any side i would join would win any battle (On account of: Turn A, Turn X, ELS QAN[T], AND Knight Superior Dragon being on my team)

Dumber still: Why could I not just send any of my Orbit-Capable Mobile Suits (Just send my Custom Character in the ELS QAN[T] up there to kill every single Dáinsleif Graze they can find, while the Turn units just use Double MBF to wipe out Idiok and Julieta and the entirety of Gjallarhorn's Arianrhod fleet's ground forces, then just use the ELS QAN[T] to commence Assimilation of all Arianrhod ships, mission won, game ends, Rustal Elion looks on in absolute horror before he's assimilated, Tekkadan wins) (And the entirety of Tekkadan is likely very confused at what the hell just happened)

All in all: best thing is to just accept how it went, because otherwise this opens up an entire discussion regarding accuracy and what would've been better ways to do something.

[TouyaShiro]

I mean, if you want to be true to the story, you have to let Barbatos do the dirty work for you - he went on a killing spree, after all. Before biting the dust.

[Sardorim]

Originally posted by Willem:

No, they should've just let you score a win for either team, just pick whether you want to support the canon ending, or go for the other team, would give the player a bit more of a "Mercenary" vibe to them, but then again: If this game was in any way Realistic to the power of the series, any side i would join would win any battle (On account of: Turn A, Turn X, ELS QAN[T], AND Knight Superior Dragon being on my team)

Dumber still: Why could I not just send any of my Orbit-Capable Mobile Suits (Just send my Custom Character in the ELS QAN[T] up there to kill every single Dáinsleif Graze they can find, while the Turn units just use Double MBF to wipe out Idiok and Julieta and the entirety of Gjallarhorn's Arianrhod fleet's ground forces, then just use the ELS QAN[T] to commence Assimilation of all Arianrhod ships, mission won, game ends, Rustal Elion looks on in absolute horror before he's assimilated, Tekkadan wins) (And the entirety of Tekkadan is likely very confused at what the hell just happened)

All in all: best thing is to just accept how it went, because otherwise this opens up an entire discussion regarding accuracy and what would've been better ways to do something.

That would be silly. Every other series follows their canon ending with no option to diverge. Why would IBO be different? Tekkadan had 0% chance of winning. Mikazuki even in berserk state had no chance. He couldn't even land a hit on Clear Mind Julieta who parried, dodged, and blocked every single attack he threw at her.

Originally posted by TouyaShiro:

I mean, if you want to be true to the story, you have to let Barbatos do the dirty work for you - he went on a killing spree, after all. Before biting the dust.

He didn't even land a hit on Julieta in the Final Battle. So the ending should have ended with her taking off the Barbatos' head like in canon.

[Willem]

Again saying this one: you assume I mean only IBO, no: I mean EVERY Campaign (This is an IBO Topic so I mentioned IBO as an example), two: Julieta did not "Defeat" Mika, that's like saying I beat the strongest person in the world... after I had them Nuked (Or MAC'd in this case) from orbit, they are using all of their remaining strength to kill off as many of my people as possible, before I step in after they had already fainted and I cut their head off, Julieta is nothing but a Spoiled Brat whom was handed everything.

But again: You kept parroting the same thing over and over while I came up with more and more reasons why i am right during our last discussion (Which you thusly utterly Lost, and I'll remind you of that every time you try to bring this up again to me), so I do not expect you to change your opinion and just ignore everything the other side says and parrot the same response over and over, no matter how many facts the other side brings in, because your response somehow becomes right after you saying it dozens of times over to widely different reasons.

Also: He couldn't even land a hit on Clear Mind Julieta who parried, dodged, and blocked every single attack he threw at her... yep that totally had nothing to do with Mika being injured and literally DYING, half his machine gone, and totally during that terrible battle between Arianrhod and Tekkadan/McGillis Mika could not land a single hit on her, he totally did not cut half her mech up and impaled her in the cockpit while she was barely able to scratch Barbatos, she totally wasn't covered in her own blood and should've died, if Mika was at full strength he would've torn the opportunistic Brat to pieces... though I must admit: Julieta pulled off one VERY impressive feat, she knocked Kira off of the Number one spot on my Most Hated Gundam Characters list.

(And no: I do not come up with my arguments because I hate her with a violent passion, I hate her with a violent passion precisely because of how many arguments I can make that she's terrible) (And a rewatch of IBO did not do much good either)

Only good thing here is I can enjoy viciously beating her to death with my ELS QAN[T] and imagine the sheer look of absolute terror on her face as her entire unit is turned against her, before her entire body is converted into living metal.

[lPaladinl]

Julieta is one of Gjallarhorn's better pilots but it's mostly that she's just smart enough to know when and when not to engage an enemy and is afforded the luxury of being able to stay out when she wants to.

But she never defeated Mikazuki. She defeated Shino while he was distracted and trying to fire a Dainsleif into Rustal's flagship bridge. She shows up at the last second to redirect his shot and he's left vulnerable while it happens, and doesn't prepare himself for melee combat, if he even could.

As for Mikazuki, he was already dead before Julieta was able to do anything. She literally rips off the Barbatos head after he's already lost all ability to move from injuries sustained from the Dainsleif impact which went off like a nuke.

[Selphea]

She hated that last job of fighting Mika on the ground too. She was trying to talk him out of it and held back on her last blow. It was only because Gjallarhorn is such a ceremonial organization with all these rules about duels, challenges etc that she had to behead Barbatos. She knew she didn't win either but she still had to take the head of the White Devil as a formality to show the battle was over.

And she does get some respect from me for having the guts to go 1v1 in space with no A-V, no bling weapons, no hidden drill bits or Dainsleifs in the knees. Just a plain old melee suit with above average specs and about as much equipment as Bael.

If after Choco lost, they reforged Bael's rare metal swords, tricked it out with all the Gjallarhorn BS and gave Julieta the original A-V, a 1v1 with Mika without Dainsleif would be a much closer fight. Mika had to go Limiter Off against Graze Ein who was an above average pilot in a non-Gundam Frame and would have needed the same against A-V Type E. But that wasn't the role Rustal wanted of her.