Why Can't I use DLC Gundams

[stephen_viens]

I just finished going through the G-Gudam DLC but I don't seem to be able to do anything with then , it let me claim them from the captured menu but I can't produce or develup them . What am I missing ? .

[Darth Hernia]

You cannot develop DLC units. You can however level them up and exchange them.

If you want more than one of the same DLC unit, you need to check their condition on the Quest menu. They will be registered to the production list after you fulfill them during story mode. Usually it's "win a fight with x pilot" or "use x attack".

[Gundam 00]

you can't produce them if you don't do the quest that unlocks the unit and you can't develop dlc units. Check your quests and switch it to dlc and it will tell you

[stephen_viens]

I understand but all the DLC quest's say you have to use them to unlock them , like if I want to unlock Noble Gundam I have to complete a sortie WITH Noble Gundam which I can't because I can't build Noble Gundam .

[BlackKite2128]

When you unlock them for the first time from the dispatch missions, they're not actually added to your MS list yet as they're placed in the Capture list first. I think this is where some people made the mistake of Dismantling them instead of Securing into the MS list.

If the Noble Gundam isn't in either the MS list or Capture list, chances are that it might have been dismantled, accidentally or not. In that case, you would have to re-do the dispatch mission again and hope for the random chance that the Noble gets added again into the Capture list..

[Willem]

The initial comment stated that: he did get them from his capture list.

After you got them from the capture list: Did you check your owned mobile suit list? they should be in there and selectable, or did you maybe accidentally scrap them?

[stephen_viens]

Ok I think I have this figured out . Thanks for you help .

[achthenuts]

Also: If you accidentally scrap them, you can Dispatch to capture those MS again, but the success capture percentage is very low.

[lPaladinl]

DLC Units can't be developed into anything, and I think it sucks as well.

You can unlock every DLC unit for production by doing the DLC quest associated with them. Usually they're just "Beat a stage after deploying this unit", but some are more specific like "use this specific pilot and sortie at least once" or "use it's special move"

Then you have odd ones like Harry Ord where you need to initiate a link-attack with him, which means making him part of a raid group or making him a warship captain, as simply having him in a link attack isn't good enough.

Otherwise you can get DLC units again from doing the DLC Quests, but as people said, if you want one of the higher tier rewards they are extremely rare.

Like you'll probably get 30+ Nobel Gundams before you ever see another Master or God Gundam.

[Darth Hernia]

Originally posted by lPaladinl:

DLC Units can't be developed into anything, and I think it sucks as well.

Well, considering most DLC units are already the end of their development tree, so they cannot really develop into anything even if they should?

TBH for the price they are charging for those season passes they really should have given us the whole development tree, e.g. GUNDAM X -> X Divider/Double X or Burning GUNDAM -> Rising/God GUNDAM. Alas they only gave us the final suits of each series so...

[TouyaShiro]

Originally posted by Darth Hernia:

TBH for the price they are charging for those season passes they really should have given us the whole development tree, e.g. GUNDAM X -> X Divider/Double X or Burning GUNDAM -> Rising/God GUNDAM. Alas they only gave us the final suits of each series so...

You mean Shining Gundam?

Also, Gundam X, Gundam X Divider, and G-Self Atmospheric Pack would like a word with you. They are clearly not the final MS of their respective series...

[Darth Hernia]

Originally posted by TouyaShiro:

Originally posted by Darth Hernia:

TBH for the price they are charging for those season passes they really should have given us the whole development tree, e.g. GUNDAM X -> X Divider/Double X or Burning GUNDAM -> Rising/God GUNDAM. Alas they only gave us the final suits of each series so...

You mean Shining Gundam?

Also, Gundam X, Gundam X Divider, and G-Self Atmospheric Pack would like a word with you. They are clearly not the final MS of their respective series...

That's what I'm saying. The 4 GUNDAM X's should be in one development tree instead of separate. Same with Virsago (Chest Break), Ashtaron (Hermit Crab) and Vertigo (Novelle).

And G-Self never got a mid-season pack. All the "packs" should just be interchangeable like Strike's (instead we only got 2 packs out of 7)...

[TouyaShiro]

Originally posted by Darth Hernia:

That's what I'm saying. The 4 GUNDAM X's should be in one development tree instead of separate. Same with Virsago (Chest Break), Ashtaron (Hermit Crab) and Vertigo (Novelle).

And G-Self never got a mid-season pack. All the "packs" should just be interchangeable like Strike's (instead we only got 2 packs out of 7)...

Doesn't change the fact that they did give us more than just the endgame MS.

Also, how do you account for players who don't have all parts of the DLC? Keep in mind, the Japanese version of the game on other platforms allows you to purchase all the Group Dispatch DLC missions separately, so it's easier to just not program that functionality in than add in extra code that could probably bug out the game if not debugged properly. The only DLC units that actually got development trees were the freebie Princess of the Sky units, both of which develop into other versions of the Gundam Astray (and in Amaterasu's case, the Gold Frame specifically), cause they could use something that's in the base game.

As for those packs, IDK man... Perfect Strike? That's the reason I'd find that they would keep those two separate, even if a future game came where G-Reco is part of the base game. Refit function on original G-Self, and Perfect Pack developed from there - and that's partially because Perfect Pack is STUPID powerful in all of its appearances thus far, on par with Turn A Gundam and other endgame MS.

[lPaladinl]

Originally posted by TouyaShiro:

Also, how do you account for players who don't have all parts of the DLC?

I mean they could just include all of the models in one dispatch mission, or, instead of making them multiple rewards, just give you the earliest models as dispatch rewards and the rest are unlocked through game progress like the rest of the game.

There's absolutely zero need for them to separate all of the different models into multiple DLCs other than they decided that's how they want to package and sell them.

[TouyaShiro]

Originally posted by lPaladinl:

I mean they could just include all of the models in one dispatch mission, or, instead of making them multiple rewards, just give you the earliest models as dispatch rewards and the rest are unlocked through game progress like the rest of the game.

There's absolutely zero need for them to separate all of the different models into multiple DLCs other than they decided that's how they want to package and sell them.

I think you hit the nail on the head, right down to the reason why they ultimately didn't do it that way: Marketing. Each mission had multiple characters as a reward, and multiple MS, with the sole exception of the first Gundam AGE Dispatch released in Group Dispatch Set 1 (Stand up), which only had Flit Asuno and the AGE-1 Normal.

I personally believe the other reason is because the MS they introduced with each pack had a certain amount of power to 'em, so they didn't want to just give you all the endgame stuff straight away - have a variety of MS of all kinds of power level, and gradually ramp it up with each pack until it reaches the pinnacle with how absurdly powerful pretty much all of Set 4 is.

Originally posted by Darth Hernia:

That's what I'm saying. The 4 GUNDAM X's should be in one development tree instead of separate. Same with Virsago (Chest Break), Ashtaron (Hermit Crab) and Vertigo (Novelle).

And G-Self never got a mid-season pack. All the "packs" should just be interchangeable like Strike's (instead we only got 2 packs out of 7)...

I should readdress this, actually, while I think about it. How much budget do you think they had to animate the DLC? IDK if you've noticed, but some of the animations for G-Self Perfect Pack are redone versions of the same ones it had in G-Gen Genesis, while others are brand new. Do you want to imagine for a moment the effort it would take to animate all of G-Self's Packs with a DLC budget in mind? Same goes for animating the Virsago, Ashtaron and maybe also the Rasveht (as technically the Gundam Nouvelle is actually the successor to this, but with the streamline armor inspired by the Bertigo at the request of its pilot, Carris).

As far as I know, not a single DLC unit shares exact animations with a base game unit, and the most recycling that goes on is between units like the AGE-2 (which have several repurposed animations between the Normal and Dark Hound), and the aforementioned G-Self Perfect Pack retaining part of its animations from Genesis. Heck, even the Beam Rifle animation is different for Gundam X Unit 3, even though by all means its form means that it can share most of its other animations with Unit 1! They'd have to divert some of it to animating the free DLC units, too, and they didn't even bother giving the ZGMF-X42S-REVOLUTION the victory outro animation like the original ZGMF-X42S Destiny did despite basically being a palette swap for all intents and purposes!

[EcksGamer]

Originally posted by Darth Hernia:

You cannot develop DLC units. You can however level them up and exchange them.

If you want more than one of the same DLC unit, you need to check their condition on the Quest menu. They will be registered to the production list after you fulfill them during story mode. Usually it's "win a fight with x pilot" or "use x attack".

For actual DLC units you have to pretty much use the mobile suit with their pilot in a map one time to register that mobile suit.