Gundam Sandrock really got the short end of the stick

[[LUE] Fat Chick Thriller]

Gundam Sandrock
Gundam Sandrock Ew Armadillo
Gundam Sandrock Custom
Gundam Sandrock Custom Ew

So the tv versions of the suit are missing the homing missiles, endless waltz versions are missing the anti beam coating cloak and all versions are missing the shield flashers, thrown heat shotels, and its shields are missing their anti beam coating.

Sandrock: Heavyarms has higher defense than the Sandrock when its main feature is supposed to have the best armor out of the 5 starting gundams.

Sandrock Ew Armadillo: Has less mobility than the tv Sandrock even though it has large boosters on it to help it be more mobile. Its missing the large pod that it could ride it so it hovers on the ground like a dom. Missing the version 2 load out where it has 2 Sandrock shields with missile pods attached. Can't blow off the armadillo armor when its damaged like in the manga.

Sandrock Custom Ew: Missing its shields, cross crusher (strongest attack) and double bladed heat shotel.

What the hell? Did the developers watch the endless waltz movie and call it a day while ignoring the model kit? Sandrock Custom Ew only has its heat shotel attack (1 range) and vulcans (2 range). Come on give it something with a little range like the cross crusher (3 range) or the beam machine gun (4 range). So you have the choice of best stats (Custom Ew) or best weapons (Ew Armadillo. How the hell is this "tank" suit supposed to withstand attacks or support defend with out any of its defensive items?

Edit: Heavyarms Custom Ew has the same defense as the Sandrock

Tom Create could have thrown this suit a bone and give it something that interacts with leadership/radius to show that it was designed to be a command unit.

[Ralen]

Wing, in general, got the short end of the stick compared to the other series. I could be wrong, but I don’t believe Wing Zero EW from Glory of the Losers is even in the game. That means we only have Wing Zero EW, which is missing its Wing Shield, neo-bird mode, and Drei Zwerg.

[Endymion Gainer]

Are you talking about what they call Wing Gundam Proto Zero EW? Because that's in the Glory of Losers mech tab for me.

[Suavek]

I was never a fan of Sandrock, but I ended up upgrading it to Custom only to realize it only has two attacks, which pretty much makes it useless compared to other similar units. It really should be updated with either some passives or additional attacks.

[Endymion Gainer]

Originally posted by Suavek:

I was never a fan of Sandrock, but I ended up upgrading it to Custom only to realize it only has two attacks, which pretty much makes it useless compared to other similar units. It really should be updated with either some passives or additional attacks.

Trouble is, that wouldn't be accurate. Sandrock Custom EW and Deathscythe Hell EW were stripped of almost all their armaments prior to the events of Endless Waltz. This was because they were going to jettison them into the sun to destroy the Gundams as insurance to prevent people from coveting their power for future wars.

Both also have Glory of the Losers versions with extra weapons, so use those if you want the versatility.

[[LUE] Fat Chick Thriller]

Originally posted by Maximum Sen:

Originally posted by Suavek:

I was never a fan of Sandrock, but I ended up upgrading it to Custom only to realize it only has two attacks, which pretty much makes it useless compared to other similar units. It really should be updated with either some passives or additional attacks.

Trouble is, that wouldn't be accurate. Sandrock Custom EW and Deathscythe Hell EW were stripped of almost all their armaments prior to the events of Endless Waltz. This was because they were going to jettison them into the sun to destroy the Gundams as insurance to prevent people from coveting their power for future wars.

Both also have Glory of the Losers versions with extra weapons, so use those if you want the versatility.

Bro if model kits like Heine Destiny Gundam can make it in the game the Sandrock custom ew can has the shield from the model kit.

[Suavek]

Originally posted by Maximum Sen:

Trouble is, that wouldn't be accurate. Sandrock Custom EW and Deathscythe Hell EW were stripped of almost all their armaments prior to the events of Endless Waltz. This was because they were going to jettison them into the sun to destroy the Gundams as insurance to prevent people from coveting their power for future wars.

Both also have Glory of the Losers versions with extra weapons, so use those if you want the versatility.

It's not really about "canon" armaments, but rather making a decent unit for a strategy game made for gundam fans. And as it is, Sandrock Custom isn't a good unit whatsoever, and only die-hard fans would really keep it on their teams. I don't think it would be an issue for developers making its stats more tank-focused, or in adding some ranged attack (like, throwing its blades at least).

Overall, I really shouldn't care that much, but it just so happened I developed Sandrock for my team and ended up with EW Custom variant which I quickly had to dispose of due to its lacking attacks. Was a bit annoying to level it up with such short range.

[Endymion Gainer]

I don't know about you, but I have a Sandrock Custom whose melee weapon has a max range of 3. For the record, how you build your pilot has a great deal of effect on your unit's performance; there are parts and pilot abilities that boost melee/physical range, and they stack. If you want to use a particular unit, build your pilot to take advantage of it and shore up your weaknesses.

Whining that they should change suits just so you don't have to adapt feels very defeatist to me.

Originally posted by MAGA Fat Chick Thriller:

Bro if model kits like Heine Destiny Gundam can make it in the game the Sandrock custom ew can has the shield from the model kit. :rshocked:

The kits are based on how the units are originally designed, not how they would be in the scenarios in the game.

[Suavek]

Originally posted by Maximum Sen:

Whining that they should change suits just so you don't have to adapt feels very defeatist to me.

You're completely missing the point. We've got hundreds of units in the game, so there's hardly any need to adapt to a particular one unless you're a huge fan of it. There's tons of other great melee or tank units to choose from, and Sandrock EW Kai simply doesn't have anything special going for it to justify keeping on a team. I'd rather (d)evolve it to one of its previous variants.

The point in general is that the unit just simply isn't fun, considering it's should be the most advanced of all the variants.

See how this variant is presented in all other games to see the difference. For example:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILTXH7FdbIU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urV66NPtfp4

[Ralen]

Originally posted by Maximum Sen:

Are you talking about what they call Wing Gundam Proto Zero EW? Because that's in the Glory of Losers mech tab for me.

No. I’m talking about Wing Zero EW. It’s the same version of Wing Zero in Endless Waltz (with the iconic angel wings). Proto Zero is nothing more than a Katoki redesign of the TV version.

The difference is in Glory of the Loser manga, Wing Zero still has its Wing Shield. That means it can use neo-bird mode, which would be a significant benefit in terms of gameplay. The manga changed the story of the TV series quite a bit, in part making all the Katoki redesigns part of the original story.