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I don't know what's up with Hert and Hern, unless (Dark Brotherhood spoiler) you did a job for Nazir and forgot all about it.
I went to Heartwood after trying Halfmoon and finding nobody there.
But with Heartwood Mill, she was there many times I had visited before to inform her about her husband's death but no dialog came up with that. She was there the first time I went to buy logs, but subsequently after buying logs from her .... poof.
I vaguely recall that a lot of vampire attacks were happening across Skyrim before the assault on Castle Volkihar and wiping them all out including their Lord. Since then, there has hardly been any further attacks anywhere. That does make me wonder if the vampires had perhaps killed or taken them.
If they do not appear chances are they are rotting in a ditch somewhere.
However, if you perhaps have that command available so I can give it a try on my end.
I figure the worst that can happen is they simply won't show up as I've already done most of the quests.