The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim

The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim

View Stats:
Poken Jan 6, 2014 @ 9:17am
Pls help :cccccc
Help pls
Well, my wife and follower Aela has dissapeared, it happened in the quest when you must defeat Alduin for the first time in the big throat of the world, i used the typical commands: prid (Aela's ID) and then moveto player but the only thing that happened was that the marker from the misc quest "Talk to the Companions leaders for work" moved to me but she wasn't there, so i used the "resurrect" command but nothing happened and it keeps happening every time i try to do it, i have fast travelled, waited, slept, and nothing. And when i try to get a new follower it says that i got one already so i'm a little confused about this and i need help :c,
Thanks for reading :claugh:
< >
Showing 1-13 of 13 comments
Didz Jan 6, 2014 @ 9:48am 
Hmm! So Aela is both your character wife and follower, and she was with you when you went to kill Alduin. Are you sure you have the right actors reference. Usually using the moveto player command is a pretty good test of the fact that you are using the right reference. So, if the wrong thing appeared it would sugest it was the wrong reference.

Unfortunately, the first reference to appear in the console when you click on something is not always the right one. So, you need to scroll through and make sure yoiu have the right one focussed.

The other possibility is that she is dead, or stuck in terrain somewhere. Oddly enough I've noticed that a dead follower doesn't always free up a follower slot. Likewise, things like fast travel don't always re-unite you with your horse or follower if they are stuck in terrain. Particularly, if it's modded terrain like a player home or something, it's almost like the game engine can't find them anymore.
Last edited by Didz; Jan 6, 2014 @ 9:54am
Poken Jan 6, 2014 @ 10:06am 
It's really weird, because the marker appears just in the map, and when i go away it stays in the sameplace where i left it, for example the marker is now on Solstheim and i'm in skyrim :c.
I searched the ID and the commands, and i don't think that the reference is the wrong one, because the marker still appears whenever i use the "moveto".
I went to the throat and she's not there, probably because of the "moveto" or i dunno i' haven't try getting married again and going to the catacumbs if she's dead, i'll try that and see what happens.
Didz Jan 6, 2014 @ 10:12am 
Ah! A word of warning. I've tried using the Actor References from the Wiki's and stuff, and they are rarely the right ones.

I don't know why, but that seems to be a fact from my own experiments.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpU5ckLiZlM&feature=c4-overview-vl&list=PL9LVPoSIeVsJVvueeD1_WFDitX991mIlF
As you can see in the video above I spent ages trying to get Lydia to move out of my house, where she was stuck.

But as you can see although Lydia's official actors reference was 000A2c8e, in fact, her actors reference in my game was 000A2c94.

So, you have a problem in that unless you know where Aela is you can't be sure that you are using the right reference for her.

++++
Ok! hopefully this might help.

I've just checked Lydia's actors reference against and discovered that every actor has two references (a Base id and a Ref ID). So when you do a help apparently you get the base id, which isn't the reference you need.

Lydia's Base ID is 000A2c8e which was the one that didn't work. But Wikia also shows her Ref ID as 000A2c94 which was the one that did.

So, I looked up Aela on the same site, and it says her Base ID is 0001A696 and her Ref ID is 0001A697.

Therefore, assuming consistency of information the Actors Ref you need should be 0001A697.

However, for that to work you I think you will need to move your player to Aela to make Aela the selection in your console. Hopefully, this is of some help.

Last edited by Didz; Jan 6, 2014 @ 10:27am
Arakita Jan 6, 2014 @ 10:35am 
!!
Poken Jan 6, 2014 @ 10:36am 
hmmm i don't where she is the ID that i've found on the internet was 0001A697 (that seems to work because nothing else appears on the console when i use it) but when i type on the console help Aela the ID of the npc was 0001A696 but when i use moveto with this ID it says that is invalid

--------------------

The ID that i've been using is the reference ID (0001A697) but it doesn't work either when i move her to me or when i try to move to her, like i said before only the marker of the misc quest "Talk to the companions leaders for work" moves to me so that should be something.

-------------------

When i type player.moveto (with the reference ID) says "Missing parameter ObjectreferenceID
Compiled script not saved!
Last edited by Poken; Jan 6, 2014 @ 10:47am
Poken Jan 6, 2014 @ 10:36am 
don't know*
Didz, excellent experimentation there, *bows*
OP, did you follow Didz's video? You need to place your cursor over the actor in order to obtain her reference. You did this? Or just got some random uncertified id from the internet?

Didz, I'm adding this video to the help thread, so it can remain pinned.. it might prove to be inspirational to others :)
Last edited by 𝕊𝕋𝕌ℝ𝕄-𝕂𝔸𝕋; Jan 6, 2014 @ 12:24pm
Didz Jan 6, 2014 @ 12:32pm 
Originally posted by KL Master Dan StormCats:
OP, did you follow Didz's video? You need to place your cursor over the actor in order to obtain her reference. You did this? Or just got some random uncertified id from the internet?

Didz, I'm adding this video to the help thread, so it can remain pinned.. it might prove to be inspirational to others :)
Thanks, for the thumbs up Dan.

Unfortunately, the OP's problem is complicated by the fact that he doesn't know where Aela is, so whereas I was able to walk up to Lydia and check her Actors Reference he doesn't have that option.

In theory, it ought to be 0001A697 , but he reckons he's tried that and he got a quest marker moved to him instead of the NPC. So, somethings not right. Even if she was dead, I wouldn't expect a different object to take her reference.

What I could do is try that reference in my game and see what happens.

+++++
Ok! I think I've cracked it.

First of all I did a player.moveto 0001A697, which actually moved my character to a location inside Jorrvaskr in Whiterun. I have no idea what that object reference relates to, but it definately isn't Aela.

However, as luck would have it when I teleported into Jorrvaskr it must have been lunch time because most of the Champions were sitting around the table eating. Including Aela.

So, I went over and gave her a poke with the console selector, and after a few false starts managed to get her to moveto player using Actor Ref: 0001a697

So, that seems to be the right reference. I immediately reloaded the game and did the same thing in Windhelm and a rather confused Aela immediately appeared in the market place and then began a long walk back to White Run.
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=213534780
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=213534452
Last edited by Didz; Jan 6, 2014 @ 1:05pm
Ah yes, apologies, am v tired.

I lost Lydia for a while. I thought ''fine, you sulk all you want, I'm off''...And I carried on with my game, assuming, by my gaming experience, that the glitch will rectify itself eventually...after a few game days, lo and behold...she appeared as if from no where.

I wonder if sleeping in a bed for a few days might refresh her? I just carried on playing in my game, when Lydia had ditched me..she was gone for around 4 or 5 days, before magically re apeparing during an interior>exterior load.

Strange :/
Last edited by 𝕊𝕋𝕌ℝ𝕄-𝕂𝔸𝕋; Jan 6, 2014 @ 12:52pm
szyzy Jan 6, 2014 @ 12:42pm 
This happened to me too and I could not find a solution :/
Didz Jan 6, 2014 @ 12:48pm 
Well I know Lydia actors reference, so I can get her back now whenever I like. She still keeps getitng stuck in my cottage regularly though.

Just out of interest is there any way of setting the console focus to 0001a697 without actually selecting Aela?

Because obvoiusly if she is missing, the OP can't do it the way I did it. Unless of course she's got umbrage and run off to Jovaskrr in the OP's game too.
Last edited by Didz; Jan 6, 2014 @ 1:09pm
Alembrik Jan 6, 2014 @ 1:23pm 
I don't use Console commands if I can avoid it, so I haven’t as much experience as some with using them to control NPCs. However from what I have discovered, use the ‘Base ID’ to change the NPC’s fundamental properties, such as with the ‘setessential’ command. (This is the one that seems to always appear as the result of the ‘help’ command.) Use the ‘Ref ID’ for the NPC’s dynamic characteristics in the game, as illustrated in Didz’s video.
Poken Jan 6, 2014 @ 2:04pm 
i've tried sleeping in a bed for 24 hours but nothing happened. I think i've found a "solution" of why only the quest marker moves to me, in fact Aela is dead, i don't know where, why or when but she is, i think that because in solitude there's a woman that sells potions in solitude she asks you to speak to a certain imperial captain but i've already done the civil war quests and won for the stormcloaks and the captain of course died (he was the guy training the imperials outside the fortress where rikke and the general were) and the marker is at the position where he was before he died, so that could be a solution of why only the marker moves, maybe. I'm just saying i'm not really sure about this
< >
Showing 1-13 of 13 comments
Per page: 1530 50

Date Posted: Jan 6, 2014 @ 9:17am
Posts: 13