Cidhna mine BUG / Glitch

[jaderive]

So i thought I'd take a break from usual questing and get rid of the markath note thing, which led to conspiricy quest which that lead to no one escapes in both parts couple really annoying bugs when I had to use a console to proceed, now I'm in the cidhma mine cell the key wont open the do0or No orc or anyone comes to either door and no option to mine for my freedom since I cant even leave the cell, Ive tried tcl doesnt work, tried "unklock" doesnt now teh door just say open but wont >_< ....... =/

[jaderive]

Anyone, ??? this is really Im currently searching or googling, quite franklly I dont like markartth that much and wulnt even think about becoming thane there, I think in end Im just going to have to use concole to complete the quest fully

[Delta 1038]

Do you have any save files before you started to mess with the console commands?

[raubrey]

Sorry. You probably won't find much help if you consoled your way past other glitches. It's too hard to know where you problem lays.

[jaderive]

I just finished doing the conspiricy quest where you had to return the guy at the talos shrine in markath, and was fine till that moment I went in instead of trying to frame for the murder the imperial captain is trying to recruit me instead, and only 3 speech choices are all about the war I have even startedf any civil war bits , 3 re loads and I got the same thing, I mad a save at the door to just before I go in, that whe I looked up the wiikia / uesp and they mention the bugs there, and suggesed using setstage 100 to complete and teleport to the mine, and that where im stuck, no orc speaking to me, picked up the silver ingot and tried to push it thru the barred window, and get "what'd are you doing that for "or you mess with silverblood family and you end up here, " o.O
I was even looking at maybe trying to spawn supposed orc in the cell with me ??

[Delta 1038]

Originally posted by jaderive:

I just finished doing the conspiricy quest where you had to return the guy at the talos shrine in markath, and was fine till that moment I went in instead of trying to frame for the murder the imperial captain is trying to recruit me instead, and only 3 speech choices are all about the war I have even startedf any civil war bits , 3 re loads and I got the same thing, I mad a save at the door to just before I go in, that whe I looked up the wiikia / uesp and they mention the bugs there, and suggesed using setstage 100 to complete and teleport to the mine, and that where im stuck, no orc speaking to me, picked up the silver ingot and tried to push it thru the barred window, and get "what'd are you doing that for "or you mess with silverblood family and you end up here, " o.O
I was even looking at maybe trying to spawn supposed orc in the cell with me ??

Might want to work on your grammar to make it easier for us to help you.

Anyway, there is no Imperial Captain relating to the Forsworn Conspiracy quest. There is basically two ways to complete your investigations;

- See Nepos the Nose
- Go bother the Silverblood.

And this quest has no real affect on the Civil War.

[jaderive]

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He was something to do with teh imperial and he was down at teh shrine with 2 guards, where upon the guy i was sposed to return was dead, and I'm supposed to framed for his mudrer, but that never happened any time I went in there and I was already past teh whole nepos thing I did all find evidence before returning to the shrine which you can choose to ...
But this tiime after I went back in I was once again at the shrin this time I just dissmissed the imperial chat and looted the dead corpse's body, and left, then I did the console command setstge 100 to complete it and the console command to trigger the next stage setstage ms02 0 which actually this time spawns the orc in the cell

( read a few quest chate and wiki's n such where markath and questlines are quite a buggy area)

So now Im out of teh cell finally and hope to complete this without any more bugs "touch wood
"

thanks for your replies tho ...

[jaderive]

>_< lost all my gear, barely got any of it back the scrolls were returned, but no armor or gold or wepons =/ tried re loads, ..... just went right back to before the note and stuck it in random barrel , since nothing in journal links to to so no reminders either, buggy place markath the only I want to go there is for thievs guild type quests

[Ilja]

Originally posted by jaderive:

really annoying bugs when I had to use a console to proceed,

What bugs? Could you open this a bit, so I can check if they are actually still unresolved?

I did not have any problems dealing with this quest and I never resort to console to proceed with a quest. Peoples are also using mods for this quests, where bugs like this would make the progress completely impossible.

I honestly do not understand what some of you guys are doing, when you can't finish quests without console. My best guess is that peoples are not using recommended bug fixes and/or are too quick to rely on console, passing triggers for events, while setting quest stages, and thus creating real bugfestivals.

It is either that, or Skyrim has it's own will. Maybe it selects peoples it decides to bug, until they completely loose their mind.

[raubrey]

I know, right?

In 1300 hours I don't think I used the console ever. (until this week to test mods, doing coc)
I don't think I've ever not been able to finish a major quest and 99.5% of the rest.
I started messing with DOS Basic in the late 80s, later Unix and I just refuse to console a modern game unless it is the last resort. The old games like those on the Aurora engine could take such.

Between that and people messing with .ini files (using bad advice) on an already finicky game I don't know what people expect. I've nothing against the OP and not calling him out, but in general when you see people mess up their games near daily and wonder why -- this is why, more often than not (besides modding silliness).

[Ilja]

I have to press that I wasn't poking jaderive either.

You guys have to understand, that when first things I read tell me that peoples are using console to advance quests, then we can draw rest of the problems from there for about 95% certainty.

I think peoples place too much weight on quest stages, when dealing with these problems. Solved stage does not mean that every script that was supposed to get launched was launched. This is why jumping trough quest stages can - and often will - cause problems.

Fiddling around with console should be absolutely the last resort.
- Do I really need to do this?
- What caused the need to do this?
- Does UESPWiki have any advices what to do, or even hints about quest stages that should be safest to use?

[jaderive]

The bugs I was talking about with that particual quest, each time I went in to return the guy by the shrine, , entrys I think hs name is, and to find his been killed, and I'm sposed to framed for the murder, I dont get any speech option to ask "what did you do" thus leading to angry guards falsly acusing me and give me the option to server time in the mine, nothing like that pops up, instead there's a captain fella down there with the guards each time trying to recruit me, i tried different ways to do the reload of which aren't many ,get the same thing ../sigh I read on a few pages this area and questline is buggy, Uesp wiki mentions things that might happen, and ways around it , but nvm thanks for all your replies, I just went back to the save when i got the note and left it in a random barrel , I dislike running around markarth best of times, .... thanks all tho

[76561198133591931]

I have had the exact same problem of the Imperial captain being in the shrine with the two guards and it not letting you continue the quest. It's happened to me 3 times. There is nothing you can do for it. You should not have used a console command. What you should have done was go a save from before you even started the quest. NOTE: In every single circumstance it happened I had killed both Nopos the Nose AND went into the bank with that Silver-blood guy in it.

[raubrey]

That's really an odd bug. I thought maybe there was a misunderstanding about the Imperial -- it's like how in the world does that happen. Thanks for posting how you reproduced the error -- hopefully it will help someone.

[jaderive]

@ Darknight, well in the end I did do that, reloading to a save where the note dropped, and not even reading it , dumping it into a barrel somewhere, knowing it just may happen again and again, I really dislike having to use console commands to further quests because I dont want to miss anything in quests like cut scenes n sucn , but unfortunately frustration wins out =(

@ raubrey , yes it is a reaaaly odd bug , =/ uesp wikia mention that might happen, so Im guessing , its a known bug, ( well they dont mention the captim ) uespwiki mention the guard might not give the angry dialogue or other litte gliches, >_< and the part in the mine cell where the orc npc is sposed to spawn and your given the choice to mine your freedom, spawned in the cell only after I ignored the captain down in the shrine, looted entry's body and went back out and used the cosole to finished conspiricy quest and start "none escape from cidhna mine" quest after 4 re loads .... =/

I's like to add I do use mods not a whole lot, but I dont use mods that might interact with questlines, have no need for those ,

[Moose]

i know this reply is late but none of the things mentioned here worked i reloaded and actually went back and murdered the named orc that guards the jail and then surrendered and i was able to play through after it unglitched everything i was stuck with inside the mine.