The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
All Magic Attacks Stagger Player
I'm a level 58 Mage, and I can't even beat a Lv5 Ice mage NOVICE because of this issue:

Every type of magic damage staggers me; Splash damage, standard damage, concentration spells, dragon breath. Every time I get so much as grazed by one of these attacks, I hear the ward breaking sound, and my character staggers. If I'm being hit by a concentration attack, my character will stagger infinitely until the enemy stops attacking me, or I console command his ♥♥♥♥ off.

I've tried removing all spell effects, loading earlier saves, equiping different armor, nothing works. The ONLY thing that works is switching to a different character. So the glitch is certainly character specific.

However, If I actually USE a ward, I can block spells as normal. (until one actualy HITS me. Then I stagger again)

Here is the load order of mods I have:


Skyrim.esm
Dawnguard.esm
Hearthfires.esm
Dragonborn.esm
Update.esm
ApachiiHairMales.esm
ApachiiHairFemales.esm
RSSkyrimChildren.esm
VioLens.esm
Immersive Saturation Boost.esm
FNISspells.esp
P1FlingRing.esp
Towns And Villages Enhanced: (14 seperate mods; one for each major city)
Castle Volkihar Redux
SkyUI
More Spectacular Staff Of Magnus
Stranger Danger - Children can be killed
Dragon Aspect Improved
Amazing Follower Tweaks
Magic Duel
Marriable Serana
Marriable Serana - Hearthfires
Heart Breaker - A Killmove Mod
AspenVale Village
Into the Deep *Atlantis*
Thunderchild (2.02 - old version)
Apocalypse - Magic of Skyrim
Enhanced Blood Textures 3.6
Extended Encounters
Guard Dialogue Overhaul
Immersive Sounds - Footsteps
Konahrik's Accountrements
Konahrik's Accountrements Dragonborn
Dragon Priests Enhanced
RSChildren - Complete.esp
Magnus Tower
Pale Elves
Qaxe's Winterhold Rebuild
The Evil Mansion - Dark Edition
Imortal Dragonborn
Animated Dragon WIngs.esp
Spectraverse - Magic of the Magna Ge
Arissa - THe wandering rogue
zMirai.esp
The Pit.esp
AuroraFollower.esp
RaceMenu.esp
RaceMenuPlugin.esp
Sjel Blad Castle.esp
Greaves of Capirotinho.esp
vMYC_MeetYourCharacters.esp
Sottea Huntress Armor.esp
RSChildren_PlayableOverride.esp
RSChilredn_NonPlayableOverride
Tribunal Robes by Zairaam
Helmet Toggle 2.02b.esp
Eyes of Aber.esp
SeeYouSleep
Dark Manuvers - Vampire Lord

Yeah, lots of mods, I know. I've never had a problem with anything until now.

If anybody knows any possible solutions, please let me know. There's no ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ way I'm trashing this character after 80♥♥♥♥ing+ hours on him.
Отредактировано xXMagnusXx; 28 ноя. 2014 г. в 18:50
Автор сообщения: Luthien:
I found a solution!!!!
"- In third person, open the console and enter "player.DispelAllSpells" "
found on : https://forums.nexusmods.com/index.php?/topic/872861-tutorial-removing-unwanted-magic-effects-from-the-player/

The CC output after I used that command was: " (doesn't want to block) is not blocking ", so it seems like there is some block effect (the underlying ward that we can hear crashing?) is ineffective. Anyways, this command will remove it! I'm sure something else is putting it in there, but given the huge amount of people I've seen having this issue (and no solution being found in years??) I'm sure it will reoccur..

Let me know if you get the same results!
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Автор сообщения: xXMagnusXx
Is there a way to un-corrupt it?

Can I like... Copy the version of my character from the healthy save into the one that has all my progress? I feel like that may work.

Nope, you have to follow the rules of:
Never quicksaving
Never removing mods during a playthrough (some can be removed but unless you are clear on how it works and what it alters it is VERY dangerous for your game).

There is a mod that allows you to import previous characters (search Familiar Faces on Nexus), I'm not sure if it allows direct control but you may be able to combine it with Alternate Actors (on Nexus) to enable control the previous character.

You cannot uncorrupt a save game although there is a utility to remove some scripts.
Отредактировано Chikawowwow; 30 ноя. 2014 г. в 6:51
Автор сообщения: xXMagnusXx
Автор сообщения: Huntgage Spetsnaz
Then your save must be corrupted. :/

Is there a way to un-corrupt it?

Can I like... Copy the version of my character from the healthy save into the one that has all my progress? I feel like that may work.
maybe...

Savegame script scalpel - Disassembler - Diagnostic Tool - Papyrus Data Transfer
http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/53045/?

..at least one of the vids either on or linked to from that mod's pages demonstrates how to transfer data from one save to another. It ain't no select two saves, then click a buton thing thought - it looked like you would have to work at it, and learn more about saves then you ever wanted to.
Автор сообщения: xXMagnusXx
Автор сообщения: chikawowwow
You don't just wanna remove mods then carry on, it's bad news. Best thing to do is continually start new games and try to recreate your problem. If it's not fixed disable another mod en circa. It's a crappy thing to do but it's the only way you can find out which mod is causing you problems.
On the other side you could just look for, or mod yourself, a mod which disable magic stagger. Or prevents stagger lock.

I already disabled every mod (and combination of) that have anything to do with magic. It didn't help.

Since much info about mods are contained in the save files, you need to start a new game in order to see if it works. one thing is that you have used a lot of time to use consolle commands, but another thing is that consolle command can also make your game unstable....so instead I will recommend to use mods that make the game harder if that is what you fancy.

Even if you now do a lot of work in order to get this save working, no one can tell if there is not another fault working its way up.

Always be sure you need the mod....always be sure you know how ro remove it...or if heavy scripted, maybe just disable it, but do a """clean save""" before you go on.
Hey man I seem to be having the same problem as you and i was wondering if you have figured out your problem yet because I haven't been able to figure it out but I do share 3 mods with you SKSE, Guard dialogue overhaul, and SkyUI. I believe right now it is a problem with SkyUI from steam workshop but I need to do some additional testing to make sure.
Автор сообщения: Zaxcrie
Hey man I seem to be having the same problem as you and i was wondering if you have figured out your problem yet because I haven't been able to figure it out but I do share 3 mods with you SKSE, Guard dialogue overhaul, and SkyUI. I believe right now it is a problem with SkyUI from steam workshop but I need to do some additional testing to make sure.

Yeah, the solution is to say "♥♥♥♥ it" and load an earlier save. The sooner u do it, the less you'll lose.
Автор сообщения: Axjs
its just like GIVE ME CANDY NOW MOM I WANT IT FASTER!!!!!!!!!!! lol
and then when you puke (game crashes) you wonder why?
Wow, well thanks for being ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. Not like I didn't know any better or anything. Sorry for wanting to improve my gaming experience. I'll make sure to have less fun next time just for you. We cool?
Seriously - you do need the Unofficial patches from Nexus. Your beginning load order should start like this:

Skyrim.esm
Update.esm
Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp
Dawnguard.esm
Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp
Hearthfires.esm
Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp
Dragonborn.esm
Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp
[Your other ESM files]

Try to obtain a Resist Magic amulet/ring/necklace etc. and wear it, or you can make a potion. The strength of the potion will depend on your Alchemy skill. Always put your perks in the basic tier (5) first.

The following alchemy ingredients can be used to create a potion of Resist Magic:
Bleeding Crown
Chicken's Egg (1st effect)
Crimson Nirnroot
Felsaad Tern FeathersDB
GleamblossomDG (1st effect)
Hagraven Claw (1st effect)
Hawk's EggHF (1st effect)
Lavender (1st effect)
Nirnroot
Tundra Cotton (1st effect)
Void Salts
Wisp Wrappings
Already fixed it by loading an old save. Figured it'd be better to just cut my losses than risk corrupting my entire game. Besides, I only lost about 4 hours.
You could also add a +15% Resist Magic permanent effect by completing the Temple of Mara quest which is in Riften.

Unfortunately console commands can bork your game. They were initially meant as debugging tools for modders not game players.
But without console commands I can't spawn 500 cheeze wheels and watch them tumble down the mountain side!
I had an issue nearly identical to this, but it was from a mod that you do not have installed, Standing Stones Overhauled by Smokingman. It changed the Lady Stone so that it would grant 10 points of protection against magic, but did so through the warding effect. And just like a ward, you would get staggered any time you get hit by a magic attack.
Untoggle npc spam in option and it stops all stagger from magic from npc's
note:it can still stop you from attacking but you can run around it lessons the effect
Отредактировано Falcon1111; 10 июл. 2016 г. в 23:19
TO FIX THIS:
I had this magic stunlock problem too and finally figured it out.
Install the mod Colorful Magic by 184Gesu, Found on the Skyrim Nexus.

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/37440/?

This mod will add some interesting bosses to Skyrim's random locations. (very cool.)
However, this mod has a spell that solved the magic stagger bug.
After properly installing, go to Whiterun. In Arcadia's Cauldron new NPC's will sell the mod's magic spells.
Buy the spell called Absolute Barrier
Equip and use the spell like you would a ward against enemy magic.
All incoming magic will be blocked. Keep blocking the magic for about 30 secs.
Then unequip spell. Somehow this resolves the bug. Confirmed works with 3 combat mods installed with stagger mechanics and a heavily scripted modded game. Now, the NPCs magic will stop staggering you in battle and the spells will revert to their normal damage you can run through.

P.S.
I advise you to save once the bug goes away and to never use any ward spells during that playthrough. Never use "Absolute Barrier" again either. All ward spells seem to have a bug "on" off "switch". (Think mine came from finishing The College of Winterhold quest)

ALSO IMPORTANT:
Install the mod Audio Overhaul for Skyrim 2 (AOS2) at Skyrim Nexus

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/43773/?

This will make the Absolute Barrier spell make a really cool noise. It sounds as though the barrier is actually absorbing spell damage. After that noise is made, unequip the spell. Now enemy spells will not stagger. This was my experience. AOS2 my not be needed for this to work but worth mentioning.
Отредактировано LeadPipeJustice; 30 сен. 2017 г. в 0:44
This method actually worked! Thanks a lot!
Edit: nevermind, it didn't...
Отредактировано raijke; 8 окт. 2017 г. в 13:50
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