Crimson Nirnroot Bug

[Zombie Doll]

I started the Return to your roots quest a while back. Went back to blackreach to finish it. Now ive got about 21 in my inventory but the quest counter is still showing zero :(. WTF? No matter how many i pick up, they show in my inventory but not the quest counter.

[voehringer_nitron]

There's several bugs associated with this quest. Some of them seem to be triggered by placing the roots in a container, or giving them to a follower. The unofficial patch shold fix it, but you should be able to finish the quest, but you may need to drop one when talking to Arvusa.

[Factualious]

see the bugs section of...

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:A_Return_To_Your_Roots

...for ways to fix the problem

[Zombie Doll]

Ive looked, those bug pages dont seem to cover my issue. Ive never once dropped one in a container. I ate one to learn the first property, but thats it. The counter worked the FIRST time i went to blackreach, i had 3 when i got the journal and started the quest. those three showed up on the quest counter as soon as it activated. When i went back to blackreach after a while to finish the quest, i noticed that the counter was back to zero, and no matter how many i grab, they dont show up for the quest even though they are in my inventory.

[Zombie Doll]

ok well all the issues seem to revolve around containers, so ill drop and pick them up induvidualy and see if that works

[Ilja]

So, the Unofficial Skyrim Patch does not fix this for you? Team should be informed about this.

I don't know what mod manager you are using. Can you see what mods are overwriting USKP?

[Zombie Doll]

im using the NMM and Loot to organize. Also i went back just now and all the Crimson Nirnroot i had gathered is just gone. Ive only got the origional 3 i had before i began the quest X{ The unoficial syrim patch is version 2.0.7. I prefer to use mods that are already cleaned with the Tess5 thing. id rather not mess with it myself , im not comfortable with playing with my files, i leave that to the brave and experianced. As it is the update.esm is the only thing giving me warnings and sugesting i clean it. It just says Update.ESM, i dont know if that means the official or unofficial , clueless here but ill bet its needed, any other mods that give me warnings i delete promptly.

[Ilja]

There is no need to clean mods with TES5Edit, unless especially instructed to do so. Mod makers are currently well aware of the problem with dirty edit and know how to avoid unnecessary ones. These warnings are remnant from time, when mod makers did not yet properly understood what these edits were. Now we have enough online tutorials and community knowledge that most mods past version 1.0 are properly cleaned.

What many players have not understood that often dirty edits are actually required for mods to work. Mod warnings in LOOT pointing to TES5Edit should be ignored, unless the mod author - or peoples who advices you consider trustworthy - actually recommend that you to clean a certain mod. Those cases would be very rare and it is usually wiser to find replacement for such mods.

None of my own mods is currently cleaned. I know that few mods has unnecessary dirty edits in them, but I don't have any mods that would work with same records. There is no need to clean them.

And there is also no need for you to delete mods giving warnings about dirty edits. LOOT only warns about them, but does not know if they are actually needed. While most mods working with same records would be incompatible with each other in any case, you don't really need to worry about dirty edits in modern mods. :)

I do recommend cleaning master files, because dirty edits there will cause CTDs with modded game. Update.esm is one of these files and is loaded directly after Skyrim.esm in your load order. I understand that not all peoples are comfortable with doing this, but it is actually easy enough. There is no 100% need to do this, but it does help you to avoid certain unexpected CTDs.

Gopher gives good instructions and actually cleans Update.esm in this video - and takes his time while doing so. I recommend that you take time to at least watch the video, to better understand what we are talking about in this forum.

http://youtu.be/fw3g_N1jcZQ

[Zombie Doll]

Thank you Iija, that is exactly the kind of info that i needed. Ill look at the vid and try it out (since i do have random CTDs from time to time). Thank you again

[Zombie Doll]

wait, when i looked up Tes5edit, it sent me to the nexus. I downloaded it and it came zipped. do i add it to the mod manager or upzip it in my PC, im so confused. Its acting like i just downloaded a mod. Ive got it, its in a zip file on my pc but ive no idea what to do with it now :(.

[Ilja]

TES5Edit is not a mod, but application. Unpack it to your desktop or any folder you can find it. It does not require installer: just run the application TES5Edit.exe.

[Zombie Doll]

Nvm i found the answer i was looking for.

[Отиум]

Sorry for the necro but when someone says they found what they were looking for and don't explain how they fixed the problem it bugs me to no end, especially since I encountered this bug myself just now.

open the console and type
set NN01Count to amount
where amount is the number of crimson nirnroots you have in your inventory

then type
UpdateQuestInstanceGlobal NN01 NN01Count

[Cosmic Cheesecake]

Originally posted by xym:

Sorry for the necro but when someone says they found what they were looking for and don't explain how they fixed the problem it bugs me to no end, especially since I encountered this bug myself just now.

open the console and type
set NN01Count to amount
where amount is the number of crimson nirnroots you have in your inventory

then type
UpdateQuestInstanceGlobal NN01 NN01Count

Sorry for another necro.

It didn't work for me, I also got stuck with this quest. I tried what you suggested, it does update the quest global instance to 30/30, but remove one crimson root and it resets to 0/30. Even tried setstage NN01 20 to change the quest to another object. Putting all the crimson nirnroots in an empty container and taking them out again didn't work ass well. Counter keeps saying 0/30.

UESP.net says this is fixed by unofficial skyrim patch, not in my case...

[JaKa]

Originally posted by xym:

Sorry for the necro but when someone says they found what they were looking for and don't explain how they fixed the problem it bugs me to no end, especially since I encountered this bug myself just now.

open the console and type
set NN01Count to amount
where amount is the number of crimson nirnroots you have in your inventory

then type
UpdateQuestInstanceGlobal NN01 NN01Count

thank you so much... that worked!