Forsaken Cave

[jblackfox]

I've cleaned out both the cave and crypt but can't seem to find the way to the leader to kill it. Is there something special I need to do or have?

[raubrey]

Did you do it as part of the Cracked White Phial. quest? If not, that's what's you're missing.

To pick up that quest: Talk to Nurelion in Windhelm at the store (The White Phial).

[jblackfox]

No I got it as part of the Companions quest. Can't remember if I did the White Phial on this toon.

[jblackfox]

OK I checked and I have done the White Phial quest, competed it. Got sent to this Cave as a random (?) siet for Companions' quest and now I'm stuck. Can't get to the leader.

[raubrey]

I'm not directly familiar with that problem, but maybe this will help.
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim_talk:Forsaken_Cave

[Clever Monkey]

I really was hoping not to mention Console commans but i will if you want. they will get you through the door without much if any backlash later

[raubrey]

Originally posted by Smile n Fire:

I really was hoping not to mention Console commans but i will if you want. they will get you through the door without much if any backlash later

There are console commands for the probable bug on that link. ;)
But if you know of others that works too.

[Clever Monkey]

no but if you need to get through the door then you can toggle your collision. basically no backlash

[raubrey]

Originally posted by Smile n Fire:

no but if you need to get through the door then you can toggle your collision. basically no backlash

That sounds useful. And since the other quest was done, should be OK eh?

[Clever Monkey]

I would think sobut it's upto jblackfox to decide . I take no blame or credit
just type
tcl
then move where you want and type
tcl again into the console

[raubrey]

Originally posted by Smile n Fire:

I would think sobut it's upto jblackfox to decide . I take no blame or credit
just type
tcl
then move where you want and type
tcl again into the console

Ah OK. I'm no console expert with Skyrim and thought you knew for sure. Looking at the link I posted those solutions may not be applicable anyway. I'm guessing you can't finish the quest by ID quite as simply, if at all, unless it has a unique name and those radiant quests the Companions give don't as far as I know.

So it seems console options would be limited if the location isn't hardcoded.

Give me the older D&D-esque games and I can console in my sleep.

[Clever Monkey]

OK my bad. I was thinking of another ruin. I just checked the page. we are giving bad advice. the boss is not even in the enclosed room for the phial quest. he is in the coffin in the room with the word wall and the corridor to the phial section.
If the marker is pointing to that area it shouldnt be. Are we sure its not to collect an item that is in the chest right above that corridor. it could be mistaken for the right thing.

[raubrey]

A for effort. I don't know about the rest. I haven't done the Compain side of the quest in a long time (in that cave) though I've been in the Foresaken Cave a lot...I'd have to check it out uncleared to refresh my memory.

[raubrey]

Ok, so clearing out the caves we know can cause bugs with other quests. And in any case being unsolved it bugged be so I did find a thread with a variety of console commands for completing this quest if all else fails. Use at your own risk, yaddah, yaddah -- hope one is a solution. Some have had to uss an earlier save, but not all.
http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2584807

[jblackfox]

Thanks. I will try some of those ideas. The pointer seems to be aiming at the floor, like there is a stair or something I can't see? Am I supposed to stand on the thing that pushes you into the ceiling with spikes?