the dwarves vs the thalmer

[Bunny lord]

nothing really important just a fun topic

ok so if the dwaves were to come back one day do you think they could beat the thalmor all by their selfs?

[[SAXON] Saxon Pride]

No. Only if the Dwemer could make a second or a third Automaton such as the one that Titus Mede controlled to conquer Skyrim, which is impossible because the Heart of Lorkhan is either destroyed or lost to the ages. The Dwemer would have to face the Dominion and the Empire

[Bunny lord]

true but if they some how manged to form a alliance with the empire even if its short lived if something like that lasts long enough to destroy the thalmor the dwarves and the empire together might pull it off but the cost would probaly be to great to celebrate a victory

[hodie]

I wouldn't have thought the Empire would allow itself to be drawn into a conflict with an enemy that does not plague them. Empire citizens live above ground; until the Falmer became an actual threat to the surface the Dwemer would be on their own.

[Bunny lord]

yea i guess thats a good point

[Hans Brotmeister]

Are we talking about the Falmer or the Thalmor?

[Clever Monkey]

I had to ask myself what kind of shape are the Dwemer in? Why did they disappear? I thought of a couple of scenerios.
1. The Falmor rebelled and destroyed the Dwemer or forced them further underground.
2. The Dwemer purposely went further underground. in which case they will be fully capable of advancing their technology given the thousands of years they have been gone.
3. Their technology rebelled AKA terminator style but also left the automations without means to ressupply their numbers hence we only see them in ruins and such.

I would have to know why they disappeared before I could answer properly.

I've left off a couple of possible reasons. Anyone like to add a scenerio?

[Bunny lord]

we are talking about the talmor hans and smile another idea if they live really really deel underneath tamreil (sorry if i spelled that wrong) is that they have streached all over tamreil and can emerge anywhere by this point plus another theory if they flew away somewhere because in the dragon born addon you can find a crashed dwave air ship on top of a mountin

[Clever Monkey]

OK so assume for a second that they can comeback fully loaded for war. they have probably advanced their tech and maybe even enslaved another race of beings unknown as of yet.
Flying war ships and giant robots at the bare minimum would give the Thalmor brown stains let alone new slaves and could they reassert their control over the Falmor again?
I think if they left of their own doing and continued to thrive they would easily decimate the whole of Tamriel.
But if they came back in a lesser state I believe the current population of Tamriel might just slaughter them as a whole because of the history of The Dwemer and fear of what might happen again. well maybe not the Khajiit because nobody seems to like them either.

[Procrastinating Gamer]

Originally posted by RandomNonsenseGenerator:

No. Only if the Dwemer could make a second or a third Automaton such as the one that Titus Mede controlled to conquer Skyrim, which is impossible because the Heart of Lorkhan is either destroyed or lost to the ages. The Dwemer would have to face the Dominion and the Empire

Titus Mede? It was Tiber Septim that used the Numidium in his conquest and that was to secure High Rock and Summerset Isle. You're off by about four and a half centuries. Skyrim's been part of the empire since Tiber Septim founded it - he was from Skyrim, he didn't have to conquer it.

Aside from that; you are right - advanced as the dwemer were, I can't see them building another Numidium anytime soon (not unless they can find another way to replicate the Heart of Lorkhan like Tiber Septim did[www.uesp.net], that that was technically still made from a part of Lorkhan since the Underking was supposedly a Shezarrine[www.uesp.net]).

So unless there's a vast army of Centurions hiding out somewhere in/below Blackreach, they'd probably be more-or-less even with the Thalmor. They'd probably win out in the end, though; once they get the device in Mzark working properly and get their hands on an Elder Scroll or two, the dwemer would start pulling ahead and eventually win out. And that's when life starts to really suck for everyone else; just look at what the dwemer did to the falmer.

[hodie]

Originally posted by Hans Brotmeister:

Are we talking about the Falmer or the Thalmor?

Heh, ive confused myself and thought we were talking about the Falmer.

Originally posted by cobra6282:

we are talking about the talmor hans and smile another idea if they live really really deel underneath tamreil

We are talking about the Falmer aren't we? XD

[Brandybuck]

Originally posted by Smile n Fire:

Why did they disappear?

4. Using Keening and Sunder, they tapped into the Heart of Lorkhan in an attempt to transform themselves into gods, and the entire race vanished in an instant. That's what the lore says anyway.