Identifying Unusual Gem

[Tiny Trees]

I reached Riften where I was to talk to someone about identifying the gem. The quest leads us to joining the Thieves Guild. Wondering about this I started googling about the quest, and the common concensus was join the TG. Apparently you can gain enough rank not to have to do anything dicey and identify the gem.

Anyway still apprehensive I didn't take joining the guild at all after chatting to the guy at Riften. However I did manage to get the gem identified.

As I have not seen this suggested anywhere I guess I'd better post it here. There's a cave I think, called Rannvieg's Fast. In there was a chest at the first end to the short cave system. Anyway just in front of the chest is a trapdoor, which anyone cautious avoids. After looting the chest I triggered the trapdoor purposely and fell in. There is a book in the lower level that when you read it flashes message Unusual Gem identified. You need to fight straight away with a warlock down there, and need to be able to lock-pick so take enough picks.

[Tiny Trees]

Yeh, Skyrim doesn't actually stop you doing any ther quests if you join the Thieves Guild. It aas to work that way since the main quest leads you identifying the gem.

I am going to boot up Skyrim now for a third or fourth checking of this. I am sure I got the message 'jewel identified', but I was sifting through items on a desk so may have misread.

It was during my foray in Rannvieg's Fast it happened. I had escaped the cage and you have to kill Sild the Warlock first. I was looking through the items on the table right next to the cage when you get out. I think there was a gem. I am fairly sure it was reading Sild's journal that did it.

I hope someone else finds it now, since someone up this thread couldn't. I am going back to the Fast now coz I want check out Rannvieg's Fast. You have to go down through the trapdoor. I don't know how anyone would miss it coz it looks like doors on the floor. It's right next to the chest at the end of the top level of the short cave system in Rannveig's Fast.

[Red Shift]

IIRC the trapddor is in front of some empty treasure chests ie. its a trap to catch greedy treasure hunters so the necromancer has captives to experiment on.
You may have identified the gem, but you still seem unaware as to its purpose, which wouldnt be the case if you had talked to Vex.

[Tiny Trees]

Yep, that's the trapdoor; right in front. Anyway I just played a fem mins in Skyrim to check stuff.

I looked in my journal, and still have the quest No Stone Unturned to do. This seems to suggest I have to identify the gem. Only I no longer have the entry in my journal to have to identify the gem. I have only one entry, 'Become a Full member of the Thieves Guild', under No stone Unturned.

This does look suspiciously like I have been mistaken. There is another of the Unidentified Gems in that area on that desk. I wonder if a message popped up saying, 'have found unusual gem', and I misread it. I was distracted as I was foraging the stuff on the desk.

We won't know until someone else goes through. What is clear is there is no mention of anything in Rannveig's Fast online that says gem identified.

[DFH01]

You were mistaken, it happens, don't worry about it just enjoy your game. ;)

[Sternrake]

It is true that someone in the TG (the Fence?) can ID the unusal gems for you, but you can still collect them even if you are not in the TG. They are listed as "Unusual Gems" in your inventory and they are quest items. I have several of them and I have never completed the TG join quest with my current character. In a previous run through I did join the TG and had no problems getting an ID on the gems.

I don't know why Skyrim quest item are so quirky. e.g. I picked up a stray bow in the sewers in Riften and even though I did not have the associated quest, it became a quest item that I thought I would never be rid of. Then I discovered that I could place the bow and other quest weapons on the wall mounted weapon display plaques in Whiterun Hut (a mod). I cannot otherwise store, sell, trade or drop other quest items from inventory. Some quest items cease to be quest items after completing the quest, but some remain quest items forever apparently.

[Shrapnel]

long story short; there are 24 of those gems, some of them you only get one shot on specific quests to aquire them and the reward is (imo) *totally* not worth all the globe trekking to complete it. I avoid those pink and yellow things like Ebola

[Tiny Trees]

Galactus. You could find out if I was right or misread if you have some of the gems but not joined the the TG. If you travel to Rannveig's Fast, make sure to enter the area below. Search the items on the desk once you get out of the cage.

I'm glad I went back for a look round anyway coz I found some True Shot and I am going bows. Also I found I hadn't done the Adept chest next to the desk, so I have that done now.

P.S. I was wondering about quest items storing, so thanks!

[DFH01]

Galactus: The bow you have goes to an elf near Riften.

[Sternrake]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Tiny Trees:

Galactus. You could find out if I was right or misread if you have some of the gems but not joined the the TG. If you travel to Rannveig's Fast, make sure to enter the area below.

I seem to have more problems with high powered mages than I do with ancient dragons?! Probably because I have been pumping level bonuses into health and stamina mostly.

Also, I cannot recall a waypoint on my map with the name you mentioned. I'll look again when I get back in game.

@Draaf fah Hahlor

I have no quest journal entry for returning a Dravin Bow, so no waypoint on the map. That is a TG quest, right? I haven't even done the marketplace job for Brynolf.

If Dravin wants the bow he/she can drop by Whiterun Hut and I will sell it to him/her.

[DFH01]

No you don't get the quest unless you speak to Dravin, but you have the bow so just go take it to him.

[Shrapnel]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Galactus:

I seem to have more problems with high powered mages than I do with ancient dragons?! Probably because I have been pumping level bonuses into health and stamina mostly.

Dont you love those frost mages that freeze you and then walk backwards. Always have to remind myself the cost to replace the monitor keyboard and mouse before I engage them
(Im playing a Heavy armor 2Hander, btw)

[Ilja]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Galactus:

I have no quest journal entry for returning a Dravin Bow, so no waypoint on the map. That is a TG quest, right? I haven't even done the marketplace job for Brynolf.

It is not a TG quest. You get it from Dravin himself, who asks you to retreave it from thieves. Finding the item does not activate the quest. Speaking with the elf will allow you to give it back.

Location:
He lives in a far, just next to Riften north gate. There is a short strech of road that leads there, starting from behind and/or north side of Riften stables

[Tiny Trees]

Rannveig's Fast is along the mountain-line lower edge, north-west of Whiterun. Good luck.

(Me too I haven't done the Brynoff job. I was bit taken aback with that. It gives you a choice to take it or not. However if you ask what the quest is about it takes it you have chosen to do it. It is added to your journal. I wasn't happy about that so I loaded up an earlier save before I spoke to Brynoff. Skyrim is good in that aspect, it works well quick-saving regularly. Quick-saving doesn't spoli the continuity at all, and I love it for that.)

I think I did the bow quest you mentioned. It's just a go get type, nothing do this do that first.


EDIT: Really enjoyed this thread whatever though. It went into a Thieves Guild debate briefly. (Anyway skyrim time - must play.)

[Sternrake]

I have joined TG with a previous character and after several quests I wasn't all that excited, especially when they bulldozed me into something even more disreputable than simple thieving. I decided to take a pass this time around.

I do not have that waypoint, and I plan to hop the ship to Solstheim on my next rotation around Skyrim. Yes, I go in clockwise circuits around the province, picking off missions as they interest me. I have completed Dawnguard DLC now and with that off my plate, I think it is about time I visited the island outpost of the Dunmer and the home of the last remaining Stahlrim.

As far as not following quests that the game assigns to you, just unselect them in your journal and let sleeping dogs lie. I have several quests that I do not pursue.

[Tiny Trees]

Yeah Rannvieg's Fast will not have been waypointed for No Stone Unturned. Please though pop in see what happens.

As I am asking favour I will do the hoework for you. Here is the map for location.
http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Rannveig's_Fast

Before you go there check you journal entries for No Stone Unturned. I'd be particulalry interested to know if you have entry Identify Unusual Gem still there. (I don't.)

My theory now is this. Either speaking to the guy in Riften when the quest points you to the Theives Guild, removes that journal entry. Or what I did removes that journal entry. If it's what I did, you should see the message pop-up left top corner of your screen. That's when you are in Rannveig's Fast I mean searching the desk after you kill Sild.


(Yes I let quest go if I don't want them for now. Interesting heads up on the TG quests. I felt pushed by Brynoff's quest so I stayed clear. Each to their onw though as I am sure it makes sense.)