[Solved] Merchants not showing up/running their stalls.

[Lewellyn]

So I've found a gltich where I can confirm three characters not coming to run their stalls in Riften (Madesi, Balimund, and Grelka). If anyone knows where to point me to fix this it would be awesome.
-Running Unofficial Patch
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Through disabling individual mods, I found the issue did not come from a Pure Waters vs WATER conflict but instead was coming from Wet and Cold (as in I can run both of them without WaC and the NPC's will show up at their proper places).

I entirely forgot about the Wet and Cold Icicle control but I used it to restart the mod and found that fixed the problem.

[mcgtron]

do you have Vsync disabled?

[Lewellyn]

vsync enabled

[wowszer]

I noticed about a week ago that where before merchants that appear at 700 AM would now come walking around the corner if I fast travelled to a city, the forge at Whiterun was a good example. And it could be 915 for example. But they did appear.

[mcgtron]

are you saying that they never show up? merchants are not on a strict schedule. they can arrive any time between 6am and 10am. also, they can be killed in dragon or vampire attacks.

[Lewellyn]

They aren't dead and it's in the time frame that they should be here. But they do not show up at their stalls or places of work (like a forge etc) instead they are in their houses or the inn. I can use the console command to move them to me near their stalls but then they just walk back home.

[[RvB] RedArmyGrif]

Did you steal from their stalls?

[Roscaria]

If you fast travelled into Riften try leaving and re-entering through the gates.

[SpeedFreak1972]

Another possibility do you have some mod that overhauls riften? sometimes there are that kind of overhauls that have some bugs. Had it with one mod that overhauls solitude.

[Ilja]

Is the Unofficial Skyrim Patch your only mod?

Is it possible that you are using a mod that sends characters indoors during certain event, but it is either bugged or worng place in your load order? Mods like that would be:
- Run for your lives.
- Wet and Cold
- When vampires attack

I have used all of them at the same time and never had this issue, but it is worth of checking out.

[Sternrake]

I have witnessed Belethor opening his general goods store in Whiterun as late as 10 AM and one day he never showed up for work at all.

The wood elf at The Drunken Huntsman works his front desk 24/7 as near as I can tell. The stall merchants in Whiterun seem to come and go as the please. The older lady with the jewelry stall does not work very often.

The wood elf at the fresh game stall once walked several steps to the back of his stall and took a break. I tried to talk with him and though he responded pleasantly, the option to barter never came up.

[Lewellyn]

Maybe it is wet and cold, however brand shei (who is fixed by the unofficial patch) still appears at his stall. I'll try changing the WaC settings.

Other than that all the other mods are simple retextures so Idk.

[mcgtron]

giving us a list of all of your mods and their load order would be extremely helpful here. also any .ini edits that you have done.

[Lewellyn]

Almost all mods of 'Graphical Essentials'
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=16339
Including:
-full SMIM (static mesh) through Nexus Mods
-Wet and Cold
-More Snow (Windy Snow)

I'll probably test wet and cold and more snow later today to see if something environmental changed for AI.

No .ini edits.
All the Unofficial Patches for base game and dlc.
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Load Order:

USP (unofficial skyrim patch)
Dawnguard esm
UDP (unofficial dawnguard patch)
HearthFires esm
UHP
Dragonborn esm
UDP
HighResTexture Packs Official
Unofficial HighRes Patch
Better Dynamic Snow
Birds
MoreSnow +75%Windy Snow
water
WATER Plants
WATER DB Waves
WATER DG
Rainbows
Better Embers
Better Looking Ebony Mail
Conjuration Hand FX
Insanity's Dwemer Coin
Milky Way Galaxy Texture
Moss Rocks
Pure Waters
Shooting Stars
Unique Uniques
Vibrant Auroras
Wet and Cold
SMIM Merged All

[SpawnCap]

Also in Whiterun I found that the merchant's front door would be locked after 8:00 but I could enter store through back door.

[Ilja]

You have both WATER and Pure Waters in your load order. They are trying to do the same thing and not compatible with each other. It is possible that Wet and Cold is confused by the mod conflict.

Seeing that DLC versions of Pure Waters are no longer supported by the author, I would uninstall it and stick with WATER.