The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim

The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim

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Sam Sep 19, 2014 @ 2:17am
How to properly use LOOT
I'm gonna sound stupid but i just can't get Skyrim to work and was wondering if i'd been using LOOT wrong.
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Driftwoods Sep 19, 2014 @ 2:19am 
what?
Trigger Sep 19, 2014 @ 2:19am 
Edit metadata, sort plugins and then apply
Last edited by Trigger; Sep 19, 2014 @ 2:20am
yeah just select 'save changes' no need to fish around the tabs on each individual plugin unless u have major issues and know what you're doing. metadata tags it for wrye bash. the other changes the load order, and your problem may be that you haven't rebuilt your bash patch in wrye bash after changing your load order. you can also merge some plugins in wrye to lessen the load of individual plugins on the game. in fact you probably Need to make a bash patch, and keep it rebuilt every time you change load order or add or remove a mod. if you're using a ton of mods, no doubt more than one affects leveled lists, and wrye merges those changes so the mods can function together. also, wrye bash tells you if you are missing a master for a mod, that will stop the game from loading. also make sure you downloaded and installed SKSE properly, some mods need it to work. if you still can't get the game to load, disable mods one at a time. rebuild bash patch every time you do that and use loot for sorting. find out which mod is borking your game. I can no longer view my subscriptions in workshop for some reason, so if you're that unfortunate you'll need to figure out what's what among the mess of plugins the launcher grabbed for you.
Last edited by Im on EQOA Sandstorm Toons Below; Sep 19, 2014 @ 3:21am
Eternie Sep 19, 2014 @ 5:01am 
To preoperly use loot can be a bit harder to get use to than suggested here I'd recommend you watch GophersVids on the subject as he takes a lot of time to explain it quite well. I hope he solves any issue you had!
Good luck

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YzsBKYUrcbE&list=PLE7DlYarj-DdhDG41roBVJfNCqvO5MmKP&index=12

I know you asked about Loot and it says Load order ... but he does cover it eventually
trust me
Last edited by Eternie; Sep 19, 2014 @ 5:02am
Wii Scotsman Sep 19, 2014 @ 11:16am 
Anyone having a hard time with the new drivers especially with ENB
EbonHawk Sep 19, 2014 @ 12:18pm 
Originally posted by WiiScotsman:
Anyone having a hard time with the new drivers especially with ENB
No, but what specifically? Is it a certain ENB, or all of them?
Shrapnel Sep 19, 2014 @ 12:19pm 
tried loot one time, ♥♥♥♥♥♥ me all up, reorderd my mods and uninstalled it
Eternie Sep 19, 2014 @ 6:08pm 
Shrapnel that can happen if you only click on Sort plugins without using "Edit Metadata" or updating the masterlist.
Loot is a powerful tool if used correctly, I say this because I did the same for a while and wondered why it wasn't working!
Until I tracked down that I hadn't changed the metadata, so of of course it will keep reloading incorrectly.
Now when whenever I load a new mod after activating it I go back to the bottom of my plugins list move my Bashed patch to the very bottom. If the mod can be merged with others as in if it's a weapon / armor mod then I'll rerun Wyrebash to make a new Bashed Patch before running Loot , clicking the edit metadata then sort plugins.
If it's a large mod that might conflict with anything ... and how would we know ...then I will also run TES5edit

Good luck
Roscaria Sep 19, 2014 @ 7:36pm 
LOOT is still requiring adjustment. It keeps reordering my mods and placing a Hearthfire patch for a mod right at the top then lower down the Dawnguard patch, then last the main file.

This is not the only mod order I have changed to prevent mods not working. While I still use it to check on order of new mods I still do not apply it's recommendations unless I agree with it.
Avatar1971 Sep 20, 2014 @ 2:09am 
Sorry Etenie, but Shrapnel, Roscaria and other people saying it are right, LOOT needs some work still. It also messed up my mod order and keeps trying to get me to use a SkyRe patch for a mod I have, even though I do not, and never have had, SkyRe installed. I use one mod with multiple ESP files, one for the main game, and one for each DLC pack. Not only did it separate the ESP files it had them being loaded like this; Hearthfire, other mods, Dragonborn, other mods, Dawngaurd, other mods, then finally the Main ESP file. Anyone that knows anything about modding knows that is a problem and this is with a mod that has over 4 million downloads and was first released in 2012!

Till it is fixed I will just stick with BOSS. Before anyone cries about how "outdated" BOSS is, it was updated on May 6, 2014. LOOT was last updated July 5th, 2014. So it is only 2 months difference. Besides with any new mods you just have to read the description to know if it has any load order requirements.

EDIT: I forgot to mention that the LOOT "edit meta data" button is used to customize and create rules for the mods yourself. According to the instructions it is NOT needed to sort your load order for Skyrim at all. In fact even the video Gopher made about it very clearly states to choose the "sort plugins" button, then click "Apply" to save it. He even confirms it is easier to do everything strait from the plugin tab without ever using Edit Meta Data at all.

So basically what you did Etenie is use the meta data tab to fix all the things LOOT got wrong with your load order in the first place. If I have to do that myself anyway then why use LOOT at all? You can do that easier by just sorting it all yourself with NMM or the Steam Launcher even.
Last edited by Avatar1971; Sep 20, 2014 @ 1:31pm
papi Feb 5, 2015 @ 12:33pm 
Originally posted by Eternie:
To preoperly use loot can be a bit harder to get use to than suggested here I'd recommend you watch GophersVids on the subject as he takes a lot of time to explain it quite well. I hope he solves any issue you had!
Good luck

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YzsBKYUrcbE&list=PLE7DlYarj-DdhDG41roBVJfNCqvO5MmKP&index=12

I know you asked about Loot and it says Load order ... but he does cover it eventually
trust me
I have bsa files not esm
InF3RnO Nov 1, 2015 @ 4:24am 
Hey guys i have a different problem. I want to use COT for skyrim but the .esm plugin is missing. I can´t find it in LOOT but if i am searching in the Skyrim file there is the file named ClimatesofTamriel.esm
InF3RnO Nov 1, 2015 @ 4:26am 
sorry i meant i am searching in the Skyrim game folder. In the gamefolder is the COT.esm file. LOOT doesn´t find it :( i have installed COT several times but it doesn´t work. any ideas?
Nazenn Nov 1, 2015 @ 4:29am 
Please dont revive old threads, make a new thread for your issue with all the required info such as your load order and a detailed description of your issue and what other tools you use
watts052883 Sep 25, 2016 @ 9:19pm 
Yea i just got loot tonight and that video is awesome and i watched how to use tes5 to clean your main files.
things i would of never thought to do
Last edited by watts052883; Sep 25, 2016 @ 9:19pm
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